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  • TheBigRaguPB4L
    Proud Loser!
    • May 2001
    • 1639

    #1

    All the AO flames.

    ok, i've been reading all the posts about postwhoring, superbolt incident, etc. everyone keeps getting on insulting everyone else for nothing. what does it do? create problems. doesn't anyone know that the best way to get someone to go away is to just ignore them. if someone is annoying you, ignore them. trust me, eventually, they'll go away.

    someone comes and posts up bashing AO. everyone is quick to respond and defend they're favorite online activity to the fullest. don't get me wrong, i love agd and all my mags, but when everyone slams him, what's he going to do? he's going to retaliate. i know if someone attacks me, i'm going to defend myself. not only that, the people that come here just to deliberately attack AO and AGD, are just looking for attention. all your doing is giving them what they want.

    postwhoring. there are a few people here that have had their post counts reset for their inane number of posts that have inadequate content. i'm not going to single out anyone and mention names, but everyone knows who i'm talking about. is someone that has 2000 posts in 2 months really going to affect you in any way whatsoever? is it really that hard to just skip someones 5 word post? does it really bother you that much to see someone's name on here? the answer to these questions is no, absolutely not(except maybe the third one, kinda the whole point). so what if someone spends all their free time looking at every single post of every single thread in every forum. if that's what makes them happy, screw it, let them. shouldn't having the only thing to do participating on an online paintball forum, punishment enough? i know having a life off of the computer is better than one on. just be happy you aren't one of them. obviously i don't like them posting 1 sentence posts, but they do. let them have what they consider, their fun.

    things like the superbolt incident and "AGDtech jon flipped me off" thing only encourage them. how many people here know who Boneisagod is? everyone!!!! how many of you know who shartley is? probably most of you, i'd say like 70%. what has shartley given us? great insight and information on opinions and future products that AGD has coming. always backs up his opinions with proven data(his or others, nevertheless proven) and is always helpful to others where he feels he can help. not to mention he's a civil, well mannered, respectable person that will never slander anyone, even if he disagree's with them or their opinion. what did Bone do? cause a lot of heartache to people that only help all of us here and a lot of money to those same people. he cause a problem so big, that they're still feeling the repricussions from his actions. I'm sure they were counting the sails of all the emags with the superbolts instead of the bill for the re-shippment of them and refunds of purchased superbolts. why is it that someone so immature and troublesome is more well known that others that are helpful? that to me is horrible and discraceful.

    in the long run, what it really boils down to is attention. a lot of these problems and problem makers are only looking for attention, and they are getting it. good or bad attention, it doesn't matter. as long as they get one or the other, they are content. i'm the youngest child, i know all about it, and i see it here. this is Tom Kaye's website. he has enough mods to watch the threads for what he deems appropriate and inappropriate behavior. if they don't do anything about it, then it must be acceptable to them and it should be to you. if they don't want someone posting the things that they post, they'll stop them. if they don't like the number of posts that they'll have, they'll delete them. if it something bothers you that much, get as people as you can to start a "petition thread" and sign it to maybe have a problem resolved. if they see a large number of people dislike something on a thread, i'm sure they'll take action. don't just waste yours and everyone else's time by just bad mouthing someone that will just create and prolong a problem. organizing and rationalizing the numbers is how you get action. one person voicing thier opinion doesn't do anything.

    and lastly, shartly- i hope you didn't mind me using you. it was in good context and you fit the purpose.

    thank you for reading my ramblings. just something i feel needed to be said.
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    My girlfriend said that if i bought another paintball gun, she'd leave me........ I sure am going to miss her.
  • irbodden
    Registered User
    • Dec 2000
    • 3413

    #2
    First off, I don't enjoy reading a post with 4 words in it, and a giant sig. on every post.

    I really want to point out though, the flames on AGD are inappropriate here. There is no reason why you need to start something up here so everyone can see when all AGD will tell you is to call him. Back 6 monthes ago, this never happend, but now there is a new flame weekly. I have zero respect for the people that sign up, make one post which is a flame on who mean AGD techs were and how is gun broke. Its unneeded here.

    Bah, its too early. I'll edit this one tonight.

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    • udtseal
      Registered User
      • Sep 2001
      • 702

      #3
      Very well said BigRagu. I have started and typed out a thread much like yours many times, then right when I was about to post it I would just cancel, cause I dident think it would make a difference anyway. But I am glad that someone took the initiative to do it. Lets hope for the best!

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      • MINIMAGMAN
        President of AGD (no...)
        • Nov 2001
        • 108

        #4
        i like being a post whore

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        • Paintchucker

          #5
          Post Whoring is just plain wrong...

          Post Whoring does effect everyone. It takes valuable Webserver resources. Remember that when you can't post your tech support question because some chatterbox has used all the diskspace with nonsense...

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          • Dubstar112
            Dubstar111x
            • Feb 2001
            • 2321

            #6
            You hit the nail on the head!

            Originally posted by irbodden
            First off, I don't enjoy reading a post with 4 words in it, and a giant sig. on every post.

            I really want to point out though, the flames on AGD are inappropriate here. There is no reason why you need to start something up here so everyone can see when all AGD will tell you is to call him. Back 6 monthes ago, this never happend, but now there is a new flame weekly. I have zero respect for the people that sign up, make one post which is a flame on who mean AGD techs were and how is gun broke. Its unneeded here.

            Bah, its too early. I'll edit this one tonight.

            What really makes me mad is when somone posts thier problem on the board and refuses help.. there was a post like this today, and im not going to flame it.

            What i do like to read is when someone has a problem and they post it in an orderly fashion, and ask specific questions to get help.

            Hey why doesnt a mod sticky this for a few days, so before people decide to flame, they can get help?
            Last edited by Dubstar112; 01-23-2002, 11:49 AM.
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            Good to know that somone of Tom's status seeks "relief" from a sport he helped create. A sport now ruled by a single patent.

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            • FooTemps
              HURRRR
              • Sep 2001
              • 6702

              #7
              Ok, I guess I'm just part of the problem here... I might not be serious all the time but who is? C'mon, some postwhores lighten up to mood. For instance, major post whored a couple weeks back and gave us all a good laugh. I think some people need to loosen up. I mean, with all of these tense times at AGD we're going beserk on each other without even realizing it.

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              • MINIMAGMAN
                President of AGD (no...)
                • Nov 2001
                • 108

                #8
                i agree with footemps (not trying to postwhore now) :P

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                • Bad Dave
                  Meeker than most
                  • Nov 2000
                  • 200

                  #9
                  Post whoring really bothers me, it is another form of hijacking a thread.

                  If you were in a paintball store and tom kaye and bud orr were talking would u walk up to them and say woot or something similar but equally stupid? I hope not.

                  Generally I can live with it but it really gets to me on the more technical postings discussing topics in depth, then a post whore pops up and makes some irrelevant post which breaks the flow.

                  I know mods have the power to delete posts and I would recommend they do this on a more regular basis (time allowing) to discourage such post whores from posting in such a way.

                  This does not help AGD at all, recently I have noticed that other forums have lost all respect for automags.org, there are several reasons for this. More disturbing though are some of the other comments I have seen attacking tom kaye personally, showing he has lost credibility, many regard him as the snake oil salesman nowadays. If I wanted to quote the things I have been told by employees of several companies I could stir up some trouble. Tom gives advice here in good faith and people use this info to start flaming fights on other forums, this is really not a good idea.

                  I believe in the products of AGD but shoot an angel, in 6-12 months when AGD have the extreme really worked out I plan on getting one.
                  Bad Dave - Enigma UK

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                  • cphilip
                    Former Moderator

                    • Jun 2026
                    • 16216

                    #10
                    I think Bad Dave makes some very interesting and valid points here. Some of them you may not like. But this is a snap shot into another persons mind as to how this site is percieved. Take some of it to heed. You do not have to agree or disagree. But you have to admit that it exists. And then you have to look at yourself and see if youa re a part of the problem as well. You might not like what you see in the mirror. But it's there none the less. So what are we going to do about it?


                    AGD, where we are so good we can do it with only ONE tube!

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                    • shartley
                      • Jun 2026

                      #11
                      Bad Dave

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                      • HoppysMag
                        Hoppy's en Fuego!!!
                        • Oct 2001
                        • 3494

                        #12
                        Its sad that our shanagins have brought a bad name to Tom and AGD. I hope this problem can be solved quickly and quietly. I will keep up my vow Not to postwhore. And BAD DAVE Your so right. As we take care of postwhoring we must also restore AGD's reputation.
                        "You have not converted a man because you have silenced him." -John Morley

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                        • Russ
                          Senior Membrane
                          • Jul 2001
                          • 1935

                          #13
                          One other thing I've noticed is how much AO loves a "scandal"

                          If someone has something negative to say about experience with an AGD product, it really sets off a posting frenzy. "angry owners" thread is a classic example. 75 replies to a person who posted only ONE exaggerated story.

                          Folks often feel the need to defend all that is AGD, without all the facts. Brand loyalty is fine and dandy, but some get really carried away. At any rate, the internet is a volatile platform for a company to interact with it's customers. Weather good or bad, you gotta give credit to Tom for involving himself and his company in the "snake pit" which is the 'net.


                          Russ

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                          • FooTemps
                            HURRRR
                            • Sep 2001
                            • 6702

                            #14
                            I may have sparked some problems on the other forums along with a couple others. I remember that during the thermonuclear server thing that a lot of us when to pbnation's wdp forums and started flooding in one thread that someone from over here posted up.

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                            Good Traders:
                            Tunaman, K-villeplayer, Magman007, Mastersconi, Jon/xpm, Kenndogg

                            My feedback if you've dealt with me, leave some...

                            Fruitcat: it's what AO doesn't like.

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                            • shartley
                              • Jun 2026

                              #15
                              See? It is ALL Foo's fault! Someone git' the rope!

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