What is the biggest "gimmick" in paintball?

[UTDragun]

Thats funny, Most of them play D1, Semi-pro, and Pro.
What do you play?

that would just support that pro players are gimmicks

greenspan or somebody notorious got bunkered by some kid with a pump a while ago

ramping/bounce is a gimmick, it takes skill out of the sport. it makes running drills so much easier.

[AGD]

What, no one mentions "low pressure"!!??

AGD

[hitech]

What, no one mentions "low pressure"!!??

AGD

Gotcha....

I'd have to say after barrels it would be low pressure.

[NinjaoftheNight79]

By RT valve I meant Xvalve, my bad.

Actually what you posted is my point about the longbow. The longbow is marketed for those that want to be slow careful "sniper" types who want the utmost in accuracy, that means good consistency on slow deliberate shots. In an X-valve mag if you want the maximum consistant velocity on slow careful shots like you would be taking with the longbow's 21 round magazine, you would have to lower your input pressure so the valve acts exactly like a Classsic Mag.

Then why not just offer the longbow equipped with the less expensive Classic mag isntead of the more expensive X-valve? The longbow is akin to buying a Ferrari and only using it to drive to the 711 down the street.

Your post is not offending no need to be sorry, difference of opinion is all it is

True, but it still would be much easier to mount the kit on a Tac-One due to the rails and (previously) the drilled holes in the rails. If you have time, look at the pcture of it on the Special Ops site (no means to advertise, sry). If you look, the shroud that holds the stock really does require the holes, and the mag kit really does require the front rail.

I heard SP Magic Box somewhere. Lol, I heard that was a huge gimmick, but supposedly made the mages run on slightly lower pressure. Something like if you kept the same velocity without re-chronoing it actually added about 4 ft until you turned it down

[Baby Huey]

1) "sponsored". A lot of the time I hear of somebody quitting PB or a well known team they have something to say about the politics of sponsorship (on the scenerio side).

2)The post that said refs, so true.

3)"ramping" overrated, I have boards in both of my shockers and have used ramping maybe 10 times.

4)"the complaint about ramping" , most fields dont allow it on rec days (only team practice and tournys). If you would use it on a rec day you are a scumbag anyway.

This is a great thread. Have a great day and God Bless.

how about a thread on the most underated aspect of PB.

[Carbon]

hmmm, interesting.

The underrated aspect of pb is probably the stuff that keeps us coming back to play.

You know a really good day of playing that people in general on messageboards get tired of reading or hearing about.

The most underated aspects of p.b., is not concrete, its immaterial IMHO. A lot of us throw a lot of money into playing (to a degree) an "evovled" version cops and robbers/cowboys and indians. Most of us will never get back in material wealth, what we put into paintball.

The sense of unity, even during those pickup games. The respect you earn from the regulars on the field. That feeling is almost unbeatable.

[Arstron]

Probaly cause AGD doesn't sell a marker that's equipped with a classic valve and has the RT Pro rail holes that are necessary to install their stock.

For a company such as specops, im sure they could make a deal with AGD to buy tac ones with classic valves instead of xvalves. What they said does make sense, with a longbow (not q-bow), why would you need to shoot 10 bps with only 21 paintballs?

[electriceel125]

4)"the complaint about ramping" , most fields dont allow it on rec days (only team practice and tournys). If you would use it on a rec day you are a scumbag anyway.

Many places have those scumbags who insist on ramping while im shooting a single trigger cocker. 4 ramping egos VS 1 Slider Cocker = i need a shower


Low Pressure is a big one. And Aggness. Who ever came up with "aggness" needs to be flogged.

[drg]

C'mon now ... low pressure hasn't been a "gimmick" for ages! Since ... well ... the cocker vs. mag wars.

[BlackVCG]

On a lighter note, BPS. Nothing better than telling someone "Wow, you missed me 400 times."

Why is it so many people think this way about BPS? It's like the more paint you shoot the more you waste if you don't hit anyone.

If I shoot 1000 balls in one game and I never hit a single player I'll be perfectly fine with that if I used those 1000 balls to A) keep your head behind your bunker and B) advance my front guys so they can bunker you.

There's nothing quite like a stream of paint coming along side a bunker to keep a player from poking his head out that side and to force him to look out the side I could care less if he can look out from.

I'm sorry but some people need to understand that, at least in tournament paintball, paint is not always used with the sole purpose to eliminate another player. It's often used directly and indirectly to force your opponent to be ineffective and make your team's game plan work out as easily as possible.

There's a bit more strategy involved in tournament paintball than running around trying to shoot each other with really fast guns.

[Baby Huey]

Many places have those scumbags who insist on ramping while im shooting a single trigger cocker. 4 ramping egos VS 1 Slider Cocker = i need a shower


Low Pressure is a big one. And Aggness. Who ever came up with "aggness" needs to be flogged.

Those people stink.

I knew I was getting old (just turned 30) when at the last tourny I had to ask this kid what agg really meant. There is a whole list of words (I think somebody posted earlier) on PBN that bug me.

[ThePixelGuru]

Low pressure isn't always a gimmick. Yeah it's a gimmick if I say my 'cocker's better than my 'mag because it's lower pressure, but it's not a gimmick if I say that I like to run my 'cocker at the lowest pressure that I can. I get less kick with it like that, and that's never a bad thing. But yeah, saying markers that take a low pressure input are better than those that take a high pressure input is dumb, because it always takes the same force to get the paintball going no matter what marker it's in.

[pachytriton]

agnes-its a funny name for a funny girl, and all I wanted was for her to rock my world!
any string cheese incident fans?

[Lohman446]

Why is it so many people think this way about BPS? It's like the more paint you shoot the more you waste if you don't hit anyone.

If I shoot 1000 balls in one game and I never hit a single player I'll be perfectly fine with that if I used those 1000 balls to A) keep your head behind your bunker and B) advance my front guys so they can bunker you.

There's nothing quite like a stream of paint coming along side a bunker to keep a player from poking his head out that side and to force him to look out the side I could care less if he can look out from.

I'm sorry but some people need to understand that, at least in tournament paintball, paint is not always used with the sole purpose to eliminate another player. It's often used directly and indirectly to force your opponent to be ineffective and make your team's game plan work out as easily as possible.

There's a bit more strategy involved in tournament paintball than running around trying to shoot each other with really fast guns.

Your right. I often enough remark on how little paint I use on any given day / tournament. If my back players were not dumping paint, it would surely change things drastically.

[shartley]

Why is it so many people think this way about BPS? It's like the more paint you shoot the more you waste if you don't hit anyone.

If I shoot 1000 balls in one game and I never hit a single player I'll be perfectly fine with that if I used those 1000 balls to A) keep your head behind your bunker and B) advance my front guys so they can bunker you.

There's nothing quite like a stream of paint coming along side a bunker to keep a player from poking his head out that side and to force him to look out the side I could care less if he can look out from.

I'm sorry but some people need to understand that, at least in tournament paintball, paint is not always used with the sole purpose to eliminate another player. It's often used directly and indirectly to force your opponent to be ineffective and make your team's game plan work out as easily as possible.

There's a bit more strategy involved in tournament paintball than running around trying to shoot each other with really fast guns.