What is the biggest "gimmick" in paintball?

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  • BlackVCG
    Grubby Owner

    • Oct 2000
    • 4956

    #106

    I think we're pretty well on the same page.
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    • shartley
      paintball player
      • Mar 2001
      • 9169

      #107
      Originally posted by BlackVCG
      I think we're pretty well on the same page.
      Yes.

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      • Troen
        Registered User
        • Jul 2005
        • 413

        #108
        i got owned by a phantom, i cried.

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        • NinjaoftheNight79
          Registered User
          • Dec 2005
          • 89

          #109
          Originally posted by fullofpaint
          That's ture, one other thing though that I think they went with the x-valve is modualrity(sp). I own a q-bow personally but once in a while I switch out the q-loader and play with the lonbow stick feed, and I also play tournaments with it and just take off the stock.
          This is a big thing Spec Ops likes to do. They dont seem to like nonreverseable modifications. There are a few of these they will do, such as the origional A-5A2 Kit (where you must cut a big part out of the left reciever plate of an A-5 to put on a new tombstone that has a 90* macro elbow out of the side so the macro of their air-through stocks are completely out of the way). The thing is, even with this impossible to reverse mod, you can still use it as a stock A-5 just like any other stock A-5, but with a cut in the side. Spec Ops likes to let you put it back to stock. They ussually also like to let you put mods on, and take them off later without finding that the mod killed the cosmetics of the base marker. Its just how they are, and it prevents a lot of stress that isnt needed. Spec Ops likes to let you put it back to a stock base marker for you. Its just part of it. If they Specially ordered them with Classic valves, then people with stock Tac-Ones may feel they need a Classic Valve to use it as a consistant "sniper" marker, which as I have shown is not true. Spec Ops is a huge fan of sticking to base markers. I really dont think they like buying specially ordered markers like that.

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          • automikey
            Registered User
            • Nov 2004
            • 759

            #110
            Is somebody on the payroll?

            Originally posted by NinjaoftheNight79
            This is a big thing Spec Ops likes to do. They dont seem to like nonreverseable modifications. There are a few of these they will do, such as the origional A-5A2 Kit (where you must cut a big part out of the left reciever plate of an A-5 to put on a new tombstone that has a 90* macro elbow out of the side so the macro of their air-through stocks are completely out of the way). The thing is, even with this impossible to reverse mod, you can still use it as a stock A-5 just like any other stock A-5, but with a cut in the side. Spec Ops likes to let you put it back to stock. They ussually also like to let you put mods on, and take them off later without finding that the mod killed the cosmetics of the base marker. Its just how they are, and it prevents a lot of stress that isnt needed. Spec Ops likes to let you put it back to a stock base marker for you. Its just part of it. If they Specially ordered them with Classic valves, then people with stock Tac-Ones may feel they need a Classic Valve to use it as a consistant "sniper" marker, which as I have shown is not true. Spec Ops is a huge fan of sticking to base markers. I really dont think they like buying specially ordered markers like that.

            Well, Spec Ops makes ME hot cocoa, reads to me and tucks me in at night. Beat that.

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            • dahoeb
              Registered User

              • Jul 2004
              • 862

              #111
              hmmm,
              i agree with all that say bps is the biggest gimmick. true that.
              the one that ticks me off the most though is the closed bolt gimmick, especially when there have been numerous tests that disprove all of its claims. shame on you wgp, shame on you.

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              • drg
                Half-cocked
                • Oct 2004
                • 1112

                #112
                Originally posted by dahoeb
                the one that ticks me off the most though is the closed bolt gimmick, especially when there have been numerous tests that disprove all of its claims. shame on you wgp, shame on you.
                another one that hasn't been a "gimmick" for years ... actually now i'm starting to see "open bolt accuracy" claims.
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                • electriceel125
                  Golden Gun 009
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 875

                  #113
                  Originally posted by drg
                  another one that hasn't been a "gimmick" for years ... actually now i'm starting to see "open bolt accuracy" claims.

                  I was told by a ref about three months ago that i needed to play back since i was shooting a cocker because it shot further and more accurate. He was a "tourney" player.

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                  • RapidTransit
                    E-Body Man
                    • Jun 2004
                    • 400

                    #114
                    Originally posted by onedude36
                    Jerseys. Too many people have them. Whats the point? $80-100+ for a bright colored shirt that i can buy at walmart for 8 bucks. 'but the material makes you sweat less' orly? then why are you wearing 4 shirts underneath? you wouldnt know if winter hit. and i think my $8 oversized black long sleved shirt is downright sexy. maybe im the only one. kthxby
                    Thets a real iffy question... Alot of the PB gear is similar to MX stuff from the likes of Fox Racing. I have one of their jersies its great to wear a long sleeve that is very light weight and won't make you sweat plus extra padding in the elbows their race pants are the same way, made with good abrassive resistant material that helps you stay cool on a 90 degree day. Shoes.. I could see cleats branded by manufacturers. Lets face it how many bikers and skateboarders wear brand specific shoes? I remember I had some some airwalks that were designed to not slip on pedals they sucked in comparison to my Nike cross trainers :rofl:
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                    • slateman
                      Registered User
                      • Oct 2001
                      • 1346

                      #115
                      Originally posted by wimag
                      tuned mine from when it was Beta and never touched it since, Too bad you were not mechanically inclined enough to figure it out. oh almost forgot
                      Same with mine.

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                      • dahoeb
                        Registered User

                        • Jul 2004
                        • 862

                        #116
                        Originally posted by drg
                        another one that hasn't been a "gimmick" for years ... actually now i'm starting to see "open bolt accuracy" claims.
                        are you serious? i'm not trying to be rude or anything, i just am not 100% certain whether you;re being sarcastic or not.

                        either way, i've played with many a cocker and have seen nothing that supports the claims of "longer range" or "accuracy". the cocker seems to do the same thing as every other paintball marker i've used; it shoots paintballs, with air, down a tube. no matter how you fancy it up, its the same basic thing for every marker. i have NEVER seen a test result to disprove my experiences. i have only seen tests that support my statements.
                        until i see otherwise.....

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                        • ThePixelGuru
                          Guru of Pixels
                          • May 2005
                          • 1461

                          #117
                          I'm gonna have to disagree with BPS being a gimmick. It's probably the least gimmicky thing in paintball. Yeah, 30 vs 36 BPS is kind of pointless, but those of you who say 3 shot bursts or 9 BPS is all you need are missing the point a bit. Is it enough? Yeah, but it's not the best. If you're playing for fun, you don't have to worry about this, but recball isn't what sells the latest and greatest markers. Those markers are sold to the people who are in the game to play it well, those who are in it to win. I don't shoot a lot of paint, personally - I play mostly recball, and I play front in tournyball, so I'm not firing ropes of 20 balls a second. But you can be damn sure I want my back players pouring paint down the field as fast as they can pull and in as large quantities as our budget affords. The more paint flying at the other guys, the less time they've got to shoot me as I move up to get an angle on them.

                          Could we do this with less paint? Yeah, probably. But it certainly offers us a little advantage, and I'm not going to turn that down. Besides, even as a front player, it's still important. If I snap out and shoot a three shot burst at someone, it's never going to be as good as shooting 10 balls in as little time. Why would I only want 3 chances to hit someone when I could have 10? BPS isn't the end all and be all of figuring out which marker to buy, but it's not a gimmick to be disregarded, either.

                          "Accuracy by volume has been, and will remain, the best way to score eliminations." -TK
                          ^ Seems like I quote that all the time...

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                          • latches109

                            #118
                            an example of a huge gimmick, "The DM6" because it's, it's, um ?

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                            • Troen
                              Registered User
                              • Jul 2005
                              • 413

                              #119
                              Originally posted by latches109
                              an example of a huge gimmick, "The DM6" because it's, it's, um ?
                              .5 inches smaller and a few grams/ounces lighter, duh!

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                              • drg
                                Half-cocked
                                • Oct 2004
                                • 1112

                                #120
                                Originally posted by dahoeb
                                are you serious? i'm not trying to be rude or anything, i just am not 100% certain whether you;re being sarcastic or not.

                                either way, i've played with many a cocker and have seen nothing that supports the claims of "longer range" or "accuracy". the cocker seems to do the same thing as every other paintball marker i've used; it shoots paintballs, with air, down a tube. no matter how you fancy it up, its the same basic thing for every marker. i have NEVER seen a test result to disprove my experiences. i have only seen tests that support my statements.
                                until i see otherwise.....
                                yeah i'm serious. that closed bolt is no more accurate than open bolt is years-old news. there are much more current gimmicks to say closed bolt is anywhere near the top of the list.
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