What is the biggest "gimmick" in paintball?

[LONEWOLFOO1]

well said i play some speedball and my back guys just lay it on thick i told them to change it up and use 3 rounds burts 6 rounds and he said that i don't time to think like that i just keeping spraying until i come around to bunker him. i feel you can get the same effect with less paintballs but then again imagine what the oppenent is think i can't move at all because there is no break coming from the paint. its a constant stream of fire its hard to dodge that.

[Carbon]

Respones to threads like this is why i like this place...

[fullofpaint]

For a company such as specops, im sure they could make a deal with AGD to buy tac ones with classic valves instead of xvalves.

That's ture, one other thing though that I think they went with the x-valve is modualrity(sp). I own a q-bow personally but once in a while I switch out the q-loader and play with the lonbow stick feed, and I also play tournaments with it and just take off the stock.

[hitech]

One of the problems with higher ROFs is that it is used as an excuse for overshooting. it's gotten so common that everyone just accepts it. including myself...

[BlackVCG]

Shartley-

Yes, you have a point. The same effect can often be achieved with a lower ROF, however it's very circumstancial. Part of it is a psychological effect to the opponent when they have 8bps or 15bps coming at them. It's a dramatic difference, but also like I said, depending on the circumstance less could do just as well. In closer range situation a lower ROF would work fine since the time between the ball leaving your barrel and passing the opponents bunker is much shorter and there's much less deviation in the shot grouping of the paint.

Laying paint down the side of a bunker is primarily to keep the other player from coming out that side, but also so in the event that player tries to take a peek and see what's going on, he's going to have some of my paint going right through his zone. At that point, I want the largest volume of paint in that area so in that split second he pokes his head out, my odds are much greater one of the rounds will land on him.

I guess I didn't fully detail my justifications for high ROF, because there's one primary benefit I left out. Off the break I want the highest ROF my gun can put out. I want to lay ropes of paint down every running lane and drop as many of their guys as possible off the break. It's simple statistics that the more paint I have in the air, the greater the odds are when a player runs through my rope of paint, one will hit him.

Can you hit people off the break with lower ROF? Yes. Is it as effective? No.

[tae]

I personaly am more affraid when nobody is shooting at me. Its the anticipation of getting surprised I guess.

[shartley]

Shartley-

Yes, you have a point. The same effect can often be achieved with a lower ROF, however it's very circumstancial. Part of it is a psychological effect to the opponent when they have 8bps or 15bps coming at them. It's a dramatic difference, but also like I said, depending on the circumstance less could do just as well. In closer range situation a lower ROF would work fine since the time between the ball leaving your barrel and passing the opponents bunker is much shorter and there's much less deviation in the shot grouping of the paint.

Laying paint down the side of a bunker is primarily to keep the other player from coming out that side, but also so in the event that player tries to take a peek and see what's going on, he's going to have some of my paint going right through his zone. At that point, I want the largest volume of paint in that area so in that split second he pokes his head out, my odds are much greater one of the rounds will land on him.

I guess I didn't fully detail my justifications for high ROF, because there's one primary benefit I left out. Off the break I want the highest ROF my gun can put out. I want to lay ropes of paint down every running lane and drop as many of their guys as possible off the break. It's simple statistics that the more paint I have in the air, the greater the odds are when a player runs through my rope of paint, one will hit him.

Can you hit people off the break with lower ROF? Yes. Is it as effective? No.

[Lohman446]

I love playing with people who think that more paint in the air can totally overcome skill .

Might it help? Sure

Does more paint in the air increase your odds of being lucky? Sure

Does it, on a normal basis, overcome a player with higher skill using the same, or lower ROF? Not a chance

[automikey]

And I will also add that the style of game played makes a big difference as well. Folks should pick a marker and playing style that fits the format they are playing.

How about we call the casual, backyard, woods, etc. players the "paintball" players (like the old days) and the flashy, fast, "bunkers on flat grass only" players the "speedball" players.

Now we don't have to argue, if you show up for a speedball game dressed in camo with your pump gun, they can criticize your ROF, etc. since it is a valid comment regarding the game you are playing.

And when you show up to a woodsball game in your matching red jersey and pants, shooting 23 bps (which I think you can only do while standing still at the chrono booth, but anyway), you'll understand why you get comments like "how many times are you planning on missing your target?".


And peace fell over the land...

[s_familiar]

I must say that watching the Speedballers complaining when they have to play woodball is great. Even better when you snipe them from a patch of grass in front of them with two aimed shots.

[Arstron]

Now we don't have to argue, if you show up for a speedball game dressed in camo with your pump gun, they can criticize your ROF, etc. since it is a valid comment regarding the game you are playing.

i love playin speedball with my 12 grams and pump mag and maybe its just my area, but ive never been critisized for it.

[Baby Huey]

I must say that watching the Speedballers complaining when they have to play woodball is great. Even better when you snipe them from a patch of grass in front of them with two aimed shots.

That is funny. It is almost as funny as when a woodsballer tries to make a move and thinks that he can outrun your shocker, and does not quite make it (me) (him) (him) (me) :rofl:

[tae]

i love playin speedball with my 12 grams and pump mag and maybe its just my area, but ive never been critisized for it.

AHH! A person who likes challenge! That the way to play in my humble opinion.

[Arstron]

That is funny. It is almost as funny as when a woodsballer tries to make a move and thinks that he can outrun your shocker, and does not quite make it (me) (him) (him) (me) :rofl:

funny same thing happens when i one ball somone on the run in a speedball game with my pump mag. Also same thing happens when somone with a nice electro emptys half a hopper at me and i take him out with only a couple shots.

Dont get me wrong, i like my electronic dragun mag also, but stock class is so much fun.

[Baby Huey]

funny same thing happens when i one ball somone on the run in a speedball game with my pump mag. Also same thing happens when somone with a nice electro emptys half a hopper at me and i take him out with only a couple shots.

Dont get me wrong, i like my electronic dragun mag also, but stock class is so much fun.

One of my teammates used a sweet pump. He never talk any trash though. When he gets you (with your 25bps or whatever) after the game all you see is a little smile