Whats the most over rated gun?

[snoopay700]

Ok, that whole closed bolt thing makes no sense. Phantoms are closed bolt too, but supposedly cockers are more accurate. The cocker really isn't different than any gun, and accuracy comes from the consistency of the marker and the barrel, how far a shot goes depends on your velocity. My mag, at the same velocity as my friend's cocker, went as far if not further than his cocker, and it was more accurate with the crown point barrel. Each and every gun pushes the ball out of the breech into the barrel, just like the cocker, then releases it's gas to shoot the paintball. The cocker does the same thing, only it loads the ball and shoots it in two actions, where as other guns do it in one. With each and every gun you get blow back after each shot, cockers included, it varies how much, but you do get a bit, mags and cockers have a lot less than others. Now, let's review, each and every gun loads the paintball into the barrel BEFORE releasing it's gas to shoot the paintball, the difference with the cocker is it loads then releases the gas, in two different actions. This makes no sense why they should be any more accurate when all other guns do the same exact thing.

[/hijack]

EDIT: By blowback i mean the air going up the feedneck when the bolt goes back, it's very miniscule in good guns like mags and cockers, and is more prominient in markers like spyders.

[ThePixelGuru]

Gotta say the Angel... Nice markers, but they have such a good rep that they're still overrated.

[Troen]

i voted ego. i think dms have a MUCH nicer feel (4s, 5s, and proto matrix's) and are alot cheaper. i think egos are more of a name, too much bounce we couldnt get rid of on the gun i shot.

[slade]

I have heard from various Airsmith's, such as Punisher, that an LPR does nothing for the Shocker. It's not needed.

Most overrated gun- DM series, especially the DM6. Everybody loves it and raves about the "new technology" when it is just a 5 year old design revamped several times.

matrices arent too overrated. they are nice markers. the DM6 is slightly smaller and has a nice frame, but that definately isnt worth $500+ extra to me.

then again, just about every high end electro is overrated to some extent. and the ion, thats not really high end.

Ok, that whole closed bolt thing makes no sense. Phantoms are closed bolt too, but supposedly cockers are more accurate. The cocker really isn't different than any gun, and accuracy comes from the consistency of the marker and the barrel, how far a shot goes depends on your velocity. My mag, at the same velocity as my friend's cocker, went as far if not further than his cocker, and it was more accurate with the crown point barrel. Each and every gun pushes the ball out of the breech into the barrel, just like the cocker, then releases it's gas to shoot the paintball. The cocker does the same thing, only it loads the ball and shoots it in two actions, where as other guns do it in one. With each and every gun you get blow back after each shot, cockers included, it varies how much, but you do get a bit, mags and cockers have a lot less than others. Now, let's review, each and every gun loads the paintball into the barrel BEFORE releasing it's gas to shoot the paintball, the difference with the cocker is it loads then releases the gas, in two different actions. This makes no sense why they should be any more accurate when all other guns do the same exact thing.

[/hijack]

you may know how markers work, but you sure cant pick up sarcasm.

/usually the join date and 2k+ posts are a tipoff

[snoopay700]

matrices arent too overrated. they are nice markers. the DM6 is slightly smaller and has a nice frame, but that definately isnt worth $500+ extra to me.

then again, just about every high end electro is overrated to some extent. and the ion, thats not really high end.



you may know how markers work, but you sure cant pick up sarcasm.

/usually the join date and 2k+ posts are a tipoff

I wasn't responding to only you, and it's hard to tell when someone's sarcastic on a message board, which is why they ususally make it obvious with a smiley. Oh well, i'm just sick of people not using logic when they say that cockers are the most accurate because they're closed bolt.

[Teamslayer76]

Also Timmys arent spyders. While they might be blowbacks, and you can mess with them doesnt mean they are the same. For example the spyder has a mechanically driven ram while the Timmy's have a Air Driven ram.

Another overrated guns are yes, cockers. They "shoot farther and with more accuracy".
Damn those elves...

[punkncat]

Another overrated guns are yes, cockers. They "shoot farther and with more accuracy".
Damn those elves...

Sorry bud....AGD has the patent on Elves.....cockers use Gnomes.

[snoopay700]

Sorry bud....AGD has the patent on Elves.....cockers use Gnomes.

Could've sworn it was pixies, or maybe it was sprites...

[slade]

Also Timmys arent spyders. While they might be blowbacks, and you can mess with them doesnt mean they are the same. For example the spyder has a mechanically driven ram while the Timmy's have a Air Driven ram.

umm, timmys arent blowbacks, and spyders dont have rams...

blowbacks use some of the air used in firing to "blow back" the bolt/hammer. timmys have a solenoid that diverts air from the LPR both to fire and recock the marker. thats why its not a blowback or a sear tripper. spyders have a spring push the hammer and bolt forward, and when the valve is opened some of the air is diverted to push the hammer back.

...unless you were joking...

/shrug

[SCpoloRicker]

Ok, that whole closed bolt thing makes no sense. Phantoms are closed bolt too, but supposedly cockers are more accurate. The cocker really isn't different than any gun, and accuracy comes from the consistency of the marker and the barrel, how far a shot goes depends on your velocity. My mag, at the same velocity as my friend's cocker, went as far if not further than his cocker, and it was more accurate with the crown point barrel. Each and every gun pushes the ball out of the breech into the barrel, just like the cocker, then releases it's gas to shoot the paintball. The cocker does the same thing, only it loads the ball and shoots it in two actions, where as other guns do it in one. With each and every gun you get blow back after each shot, cockers included, it varies how much, but you do get a bit, mags and cockers have a lot less than others. Now, let's review, each and every gun loads the paintball into the barrel BEFORE releasing it's gas to shoot the paintball, the difference with the cocker is it loads then releases the gas, in two different actions. This makes no sense why they should be any more accurate when all other guns do the same exact thing.

I work for Closed-Bolt Markers.

So I am really getting a kick out of most of these replies. Some of you guys are very good at making it sound like you know what you are talking about.

But trust me.... You don't.

I think you just want to make yourself sound smart, when in reality you don't know what you are talking about. This is how bad info gets passed around. If you don't know about the topic....Don't make yourself sound like you do.

Cuz some people will believe anything they read.

/jus trollin
//YA RLY

[camilion705]

I work for Closed-Bolt Markers.

Im confused... How do you work for "Closed-Bolt Markers?" Don't take offense or anything, Im just curious.

[SpitFire1299]

a lot of those are overrated to some extent.

but wheres e-mags? theyre overrated on AO.

You do realize this is an automag forum. :)

I think Angels are very good.. reliable too. I dont see the ion and impulse being high end.

Angels- Not over-rated (You can get an LCD for like $250, and they are so worth it!)
DM's- Not over-rated (They are simpley good guns.)
EGOs- I have never seen/shot/owned one before. lol
Shockers- All i see is people with a problem. The gun is good, but only when it works. Dont try and tell me wrong, ive seen and heard enough. Shockers=the most over-rated.
Timmy- Not over-rated (Its like a spyder built to perfection. Well, then its not like a spyder at all) :)

[Banshee23]

I work for Closed-Bolt Markers.

[MicroMiniMe]

I work for Closed-Bolt Markers.

So I am really getting a kick out of most of these replies. Some of you guys are very good at making it sound like you know what you are talking about.

But trust me.... You don't.

I think you just want to make yourself sound smart, when in reality you don't know what you are talking about. This is how bad info gets passed around. If you don't know about the topic....Don't make yourself sound like you do.

Cuz some people will believe anything they read.

/jus trollin
//YA RLY

He also works for Chuck Norris, The Dali Llama, Woody Allen and Bill Gates.

Though I think he still sells ice to Eskimo's in the offseason.


Most overrated marker is ANYTHING brand new off the shelf at retail pricing.

[slade]

You do realize this is an automag forum. :)

...which would explain why emags are so overrated here

sorry, but they really are.