What does supporting NPPL give to you?

[Lohman446]

Maybe for large NCAA sports... and why do you think they do that? Because the publicity of having a good team can draw more people to your school. What would the NPPL get out of giving you a cheap tournament besides little to no profit, and no money to pay for the event necessitites?

What do I get out of giving the NPPL the money it takes to support pro players knowing I never intend to join there ranks? What does supporting NPPL do for me?

Lets forget the help that college athletes (a select few) receive. Why should I support the NPPL?

[Crazy]

What do I get out of giving the NPPL the money it takes to support pro players knowing I never intend to join there ranks? What does supporting NPPL do for me?

Play to win. Money, publicity, sponsors, skill.

[Lohman446]

Play to win. Money, publicity, sponsors, skill.

Money - in D2 and D3 that money is trivial. Trivial enough that it should simply be done away with. Publicity, maybe - I'll give that to you borderline... Skill... I can get and hone skill without the NPPL. The investment to return rate is far greater at some of the local tournaments I can attend as far as money.

[p8ntball72]

Why should I support the NPPL?

Don't, and convince more player to do the same..

Then lets all sit back and watch the industry Tank.

[Crazy]

Money - in D2 and D3 that money is trivial. Trivial enough that it should simply be done away with. Publicity, maybe - I'll give that to you borderline... Skill... I can get and hone skill without the NPPL. The investment to return rate is far greater at some of the local tournaments I can attend as far as money.

Done away with? It barely covers an events costs as it is. Why not congradulate the winners with a free event basically. Bottom line, if your not there to win, show the industry what your there for, get sponsors, and move up promoting them and helping their sales and profits, mine as well play the rookie/novice three at the local spool field.

[Lohman446]

Done away with? It barely covers an events costs as it is. Why not congradulate the winners with a free event basically. Bottom line, if your not there to win, show the industry what your there for, get sponsors, and move up promoting them and helping their sales and profits, mine as well play the rookie/novice three at the local spool field.

I would say the airball fields around me are as nice as any I have ever seen at any local event and were of far better quality than the ones I saw at the last NPPL sactioned event I was at. So the NPPL is players supporting it only for the chance to move upward in level? Thats all they offer me?

[Stealth Fighter]

We need team owners, and a players union, much like the NFL. If there is a players union for the NPPL, I would have the head representative's head on my trophy wall.

[Crazy]

I would say the airball fields around me are as nice as any I have ever seen at any local event and were of far better quality than the ones I saw at the last NPPL sactioned event I was at. So the NPPL is players supporting it only for the chance to move upward in level? Thats all they offer me?

Since when are they there to serve you, and just you? What tournament that is put on anywhere in the United States is not intended to make money?

Get better and play D1, I've seen and known many players that have gone from D3 all the way up to D1, Semi-Pro, and Pro.

[Lohman446]

Since when are they there to serve you, and just you? What tournament that is put on anywhere in the United States is not intended to make money?

Get better and play D1, I've seen and known many players that have gone from D3 all the way up to D1, Semi-Pro, and Pro.

I have no problem with making money. I have a problem with balancing the tournament on the backs of the D2 and D3 players. They are not there to serve me and just me, but undoutebdly there are others like me. I at this point am taking a stance that I refuse to support the D1 / Pro players of today until they show me why I should.

[Crazy]

!) Practice them at fields(non-nppl; so you save money)
2) Get better
3) Win the higher classification


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[Lohman446]

!) Practice them at fields(non-nppl; so you save money)
2) Get better
3) Win the higher classification


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Its not about the cash... lets start there. Its about the balancing of league on the back of the "recreational level" players for the benefit of the pro players and league. Thats my problem. As a D2 and D3 player NPPL offers me very little in exchange for the amount of money I hand them.

[Crazy]

So don't play then.

As i stated before, if you do win these classification it helps imensely when getting sponsors, which helps make paintball cheaper for your team.

[Richter]

here is a different idea; try to figure out how much it cost you per minute to play paintball in the nppl:
8 games @ 7 minutes per game = 56 minutes that you could play if every game went to time.

Division III entry fee = $1950

1950/56=$34.82 per minute for the team or $4.97 per person on the field

Now that is just entry fee; that does not include paint, travel expenses, food, and other expenses.

on a side note:
That is why i like big games/scenario games more value for your dollar: more time on the field and lot more people to shoot.

I have not played a big tourney since world cup 2001.

[SlartyBartFast]

We need team owners, and a players union, much like the NFL. If there is a players union for the NPPL, I would have the head representative's head on my trophy wall.

That would be funny if it wasn't so ironic. You do know that the NPPL once stood for the National Paintball Player's League. Right?

Unfortunately, self-interested bickering teams lose out to self-interested industry.

[tony3]

I do think div3 prizes are horrible, because frankly they are, but I'd say the biggest thing div2 and 3 gets you is sponsors. I know my team was going to get great sponsors this year depending on how they did at HB this year. I think they should just get rid of prizes all together, or just pay back entry to the top teams.

As for what manike said about top div 3 team being the 149th best team, that is in my opinion completely wrong. There are plenty of div 2 teams that would get destroyed by div3 teams, just because so many div2 teams were either forced to move up or play up because they think they are too good for div3.