My 2 cents on Electrics

[LqdTECH]

First off electrics are very smooth guns but the problem stems from the fact that they are not being designed to be rough and tough.... Sure U can get an angel it will fire smooth and very fast but u knock it hard one time and it breaks, sand, water... battery dieing out The emag is comming along, its half way between Electric smooth and AK 47 tough but not quite there yet..

Whats the fun in going electic? So u can shoot faster then everyone else. Does that make u a better player in some way?
Thats why I have so much respect for pump players they are truly killer players..

When I ref i see all these people decked out in electics blowing hopper after hopper, the only reason they get any hits is couse they hit EVERYTHING

Electrics come with way to may possible problems that cannot be fixed by the common paintballer less they have a high degree of electronics experties

Stick with killer mechanics is the way I am going.. Il take a sweet *** RT over an EMAG anyday or a tricked cocker... They are just more fun in my eyes you can actually work on them without total fear of shorting out a bord

Also Electrics are WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY too overpriced.. gimmy a break already, there isnt that much of electrical inginuity placed into these guns.....2k for a tricked angel? 1.400 for a slf emag? compare that to a Laptop? prices are almost the same but u can do a hell of alot more with a laptop not only that but there is 1000 times more electrical thaught in the laptops then an Electric marker.... Now if they made an electric marker that didnt use anytype of Air, CO2 just purly electric neumatic then i could see why it would cost so much,



Just my two cents worth... I am a mechanic lover is all...

What do you guys think of electrics?

[Wang]

I can see where you're coming from, in fact, that's exactly how I felt a little while back. But that was before I got a good deal on a bushy. Get an electro, give it a chance. Play with it a couple of games and you'll see.

[HyperSnyper]

What are you talking about?

Electrics are sweet, it has a higher rate of fire which is very helpful in those times when you need it. Also, electri on a Mag = Bye Bye Short Stroking. But if you have a trained finger, then disreguard.

When you post up on a dude, you need a nice ROF to catch him when he snap shoots at you.

Dont stereotype Elctric with "Spray and Prayers". I play all day and at the most burn 600 rounds. I use my harness rarely, only if other players bring some large packs on the field. I spend most of my time getting a good angle on someone rather than spraying from the back.

-Hyper

[LqdTECH]

I do have an electric I have an Angel LCD and a Electric Nova.

Its kinda cheating i think at our fields u cant go fully auto but the electrics fire so damn fast its like they are full auto

[LqdTECH]

I seriously Dout u only use 600 all day with an electric I have been refing for a while now and that just cant be true unless ur playing games with no time limits and total jungle fields and if ur only using about 600 why not just go with a pump then whats the point of the electric?

[LaW]

I like electro's but I'm not a paint hoser... I like to be able to lay out a nice snap shot... and know that the option is there to shoot quickly but I don't burn through paint..

[LqdTECH]

I just think Electrics are way to much trouble for the price most of them that is.

There are exceptions like the Spyder EM1 IMPS now those are kick *** priced Electrics and they are killer in play the EM1 and the angel i was using one 2 weeks ago and the only difference in performance i could see was a slight speed variation and more movement of the EM1 when u fire..

The Angel and Emag are not Worth their respected prices in anyway... the RT pro is also a bit over priced, but its all supply and demand i guess.

By the way the spyder EM1 kicks *** just thaught i would throw that in

[HyperSnyper]

Originally posted by LqdTECH
I seriously Dout u only use 600 all day with an electric I have been refing for a while now and that just cant be true unless ur playing games with no time limits and total jungle fields and if ur only using about 600 why not just go with a pump then whats the point of the electric?

Hey, its preference. And its very true for me.

I show up at 10 am. People dont show until 12, I play until 4. I never knew paintball had a "balls to shoot per day" limit. I use to play conserving paint since I need to save money since times were hard. Even now that I got a better job than my old one, I guess I got used to playing with my paint conservation mantallity.

If you would like, I can burn about 200-300 more rounds by shooting it at the ground if it make you happy, I can get paint for cheap now.

-Hyper

[HyperSnyper]

Besides just to add,

if you check my old posts, my main reason I got my electric hyperframe was to completely eliminate short stroking, it was not because of the increase rate of fire. I have mine set at 10 bps to make sure I dont outrun my hopper. I can even set it to 5 and be happy.

When theres only rentals against me, I voluntarily set it to 8 bps so I wont take advantage of my electro and the rentals.

-Hyper

[RSUAVE911]

Was your mindset LQD let me start a thread that is controversial and has been fought about 900 billion times?

I do not now what kind of electric you are using but my emag does not break in rain or snow or by dirt. I have owned an automag rt well actually still own it but never use it, but my E-MAG IS SOOO MUCH BETTER!

Statistically wise, I am sure you hit more people, with eletrics because instead of shooting a pump you are shooting 12 balls a second. Does that make you a better player? NO.

[LqdTECH]

Its very simple... Im my opinion they are way to over priced. the emag is a good gun but not 900 dollers worth, and statisticly emags are more prone to break downs and problems due too the added electric parts (more parts more potential problems) Emags electrics are sensitive i had a buddie take a fall and his pack hit the ground, his mechanics worked fine but his electrics wont work.

Just saying il take an AK over an M14 anyday may not be as smooth but u can use it barried in sand.

[LaW]

well at least the emag won't be out of commission with manual mode

[AngelBoy]

So if u want less parts and less moving parts, buy an EPIC. 2 moving parts, and one is the trigger? I learned how to take them apart during the time I spent in one tournament, and i never used it, I just watched the creator of them take it apart so much. There is really nothing that can go wrong in them so why dont u get one? They are overpriced but if some how u can find a used one then maybe u should get it. And if u find a used one and dont get it then tell me because I want it.

[Butterfingers]

Ok...

Lqd that is a bit unreasonable.

Overpriced... No.

If you are gonna sell 1000 guns each year you have to make up R&D somewhere. Yes R&D IS a real cost. The cost of machining high quality aluminum and stainless steel is not cheap either.

The thing with R&D is that the more you sell the cheaper it becomes R&D is a flat cost because the technology can be copied from unit to unit. If people are selling 100,000 computers in a year and R&D costs $100,000. That means you only see $1 in the cost of R&D. Now if it costs $100,000 in R&D and you only sell 1000 units the end consumer will see $100 of the R&D costs.

Now the logical thing to do would be to lower the cost to sell more units right? WRONG. The raw material and employee cost goes up with each marker you make. If it costs $500 in raw materials and $200 in wages for each marker produced you can't sell a marker for $600 it dosent make sense. You would loose money. Thats the price you pay for high quality, reliable top notch products. Also the market for paintball guns is expotentially smaller than the computer market. I have also never seen a computer CNC machined out of stainless, brass, and aluminum.

I would like to see you develop, market and manufacture an electronic marker then sell it for $500. For the amount of time you would spend doing it you would make more money working in a singapore sweat shop.

As for electronics being less relaible... statisticly there are more things that can go wrong. But if it is well built it dosent happen often if at all.

The advantages of a high ROF is countless. I will only list a few cause I can most likely fill up a whole page of why a high ROF is better.

One is hit probablility the faster you fire the more likely you are gonna hit your target. This dosent even mean you have to use more paint. Say you are trying to hit a target. The target sticks his head out of the bunker for approx 1 second, for simplicity sakes. If you have a high rof in that one second you can send 14 balls downstream. You have a 1 in 14 chance you will miss. If you can only shoot 6 BPS the probablity is higher that you will miss. Then you will have to relocate your target and shoot again. If you keep missing you will waste MORE paint per target with a lower ROF.

Secondly is cover fire situations in which you don't know exactly where youre target is but you are trying to clear a path for a runner. More paint= Higher probablity of a hit and a higher intimidation factor.

Thirdly it is better when trying to eliminate moving targets for obvious reasons.

In these situations you can miss 3 times at 6 bps or you can eliminate the player in the first try at 14 bps and use less paint.

and the list goes on...

[animal]

Re: Ok...

Originally posted by Butterfingers
Lqd that is a bit unreasonable.

I would like to see you develop, market and manufacture an electronic marker then sell it for $500. For the amount of time you would spend doing it you would make more money working in a singapore sweat shop.

It's called the black dragun

In these situations you can miss 3 times at 6 bps or you can eliminate the player in the first try at 14 bps and use less paint.

Or accidentally hit with all of them and piss people off

I always feel really bad about it too. It's so easy to do that with my hair emag trig