My 2 cents on Electrics

[Hysperion]

Well i owned a 68 automag, then an rt pro and now an sfl. And I must say it is not the rof that makes me love my sfl it is the fact that i don't short stroke. When I had the rt pro I'd see someone get too excited and try to fire fast, what did I do? Short stroke a ball. And once you start with a high rof you won't go back. If you don't wanna pay $900 for an emag don't. But don't tell others how to spend their money......If we wanna take about wasteful use of money talk about smoking. The average smoker probably goes through the price of an emag every year and for what? Something that kills you?

[animal]

Yeah but I get "killed" a bunch of times every week :) Mostly due to my own stupidity, or simply those heat seeking paintballs. (probably more the second one imho)

[LaW]

I plan to get it handed to me friday night.... my unfamiliarity with the fields and my lack of playing time in the past months is going to hurt... and the fact I can't use too much paint sucks.... i'm going to be playing hopper ball mostly....i won't be unloading a lot

[animal]

Originally posted by LaW
i won't be unloading a lot

I said that when i got my emag as well. Be truthful to yourself... you will :)

[LaW]

ok for the first game i'm not wearing my redz pack

:) however I'll probably run out of paint and decide to put it on hehe... how much do the cases cost at daves' now anyway? Just wondering... first day out with the emag I might as well spoil myself

[animal]

member 67.50... regular 75

[LaW]

damn... how i wish i were a member :)

[RoadDawg]

electros are a little pricey. Then again this whole sport is kinda pricey. My problem is I don't make enough money and have other responsibilities to keep up with these electros. In some ways electros take the fun out of it. Well the people that sit there and go through hopper after hopper of paint do anyways. I mean it's not a lot of fun when you slide into a bunker and hear endless thumps coming from a guy/girl that holds the trigger down. I'm not saying all electro players are spray and prayers. I realize there are some that like the one shot with the light trigger and have the power to get off a good string when the time is right. With all that said that is why I like the no nuke rule. Which basically hit more then 3 times with the same string and the other guy is out and not you. Only problem is catching the person and identifying that it was just him that shot you. When I played in Utah I had the utmost respect for the guy who put his angel down and proceeded to finish the day with a Phantom. Although he didn't have the long strings to shot he still survived and eliminated the same amount of people. I also have the respect for electro players that control their rof and not fire 8 to 9 per second and hit nothing or worse yet hit me with all 9. I mean it takes one to get me out yet they hit me with 8 extra. Not my way of having fun if you ask me. Now I'm ok with 3 or 4 hits. Anymore just ruins it. Especially for newbies. My thoughts to Electro owners probably doesn't matter but hey just calm the trigger down and work on accuracy by eye and not by quantity.

Nick

[FooTemps]

Well, I like this arguement. There isn't very any tentions yet.

I have a preference of mechanical paintball guns also. I've only shot a e-tippy and an e-spyder so far because I'm still a newb. I do like e-markers but can see that they are still pricey for my taste. I only play rec ball so it doesn't really matter to me anyways. The mechanical feel of the gun gives me a sort of satisfaction that an electric gun/kit/trig. frame doesn't give me. Yes, I do like firing off 10+ balls per second but it doesn't feel as good as firing off a shot from a mechanical marker.

I do see and understand the advantages of electro but it just doesn't feel like it fits me for the moment.

[liigod]

Well i agree with yout o some point, but an rt is as fast as an electro in good hands, and i know a hingetrigger cocker is as fast as any angel shooter, in my hands :-D. I use a force 5 because i have to move my finger so little it doenst thow the shot off at all, and i can fire even more acuratly. Ill stick with my electro cocker, cept with the new wgp 3 ways, they will be so sick i dont need electro. :-) Finally id ont use speed for volume, i use it for 3 quick shots before i pop back in. So i can go as fast wheneve ri need to. Not tha ti go full out all the time. ALthough it is cool when i do us with a 10 inch boomstick it sounds like theres 4 other guys with me. :-)

[Hasty8]

Here's your refund.

Originally posted by LqdTECH
Stick with killer mechanics is the way I am going.. Il take a sweet *** RT over an EMAG anyday or a tricked cocker... They are just more fun in my eyes you can actually work on them without total fear of shorting out a bord:)

I now shoot an Emag which is my first AGD marker and my first eloectronic as well. My first marker was a Tippmann M98. Now you wanna talk Ak tough and this baby is it. I've dunker her in water and she still shot great.

The funny thin about your excerpt there is that with the Emag (and only the Emag) can you suffer a total electronic failure, I mean smoke could be coming out of the circuit board and you can still play. All you do if flip a switch and your zooming again with the fastest recharging valve in the industry.

If that happened to an Angel owner they would be crying into their hoppers all the way back to the rest area.

As for my initial decision to get an electro? I'll be bluntly honest. I was a sever case of keeping up with the jones'.

And you are right. When I first got the puppy I would fan away with it. But now I have regained my composure and play a bit more realisticly. More fire control than frie spray if you get my idea.

It's human nature to want to have the best over your neighbor. This is a capitalist society after all.

[HyperSnyper]

Going electric with the Hyperframe was the best thing ever done to my Mag. It has made the most difference even against getting my Boomy, Ricochet, HPA, Stabilizer, or even Drop forward.

The change was immense (NO SHORT STROKING also no more deviation when yanking on my old mechanical trigger). Completely changed the way I feel when I play. Maybe you shoud try and convert, then come back here with another opinion.

-Hyper

[steveg]

I have to side with the pro electronic side I have a
hyperframe and e-matrix

First I fail to see why the hyperframe would be any more
delicate then the manual grip. Yes if you threw the thing
into the lake you would have to dry it out again, but its
not like you can shake the water off an rt and start firing
right away either.

When I look around me here in my apartment I see a 14year
old sony tv, a 12year old vcr, an 8 year old mitsubishi
monitor. In my parking lot is a soon too be 10 year old
mazda mx-3. my stereo has 211 triode tubes built in 1943

In my work I encountered 20 year old CNC lathes and milling
machines

The point being that all these things are OLD,
have electronics in them and are working just fine, and will
continue to do so for years yet.

I have seen people walk off the field with all kinds of
dead mechanical markers.

Now that I use the matrix as my main gun (and they can shoot a lot of paint)
I probably use less paint not more.

Finally computers are a bad comparison, they are made and sold by the millions
and have around about a 3% profit
margin

[kenshinkandon]

I still consider myself fairly new to the sport of paintball and have seen alot of things I like and things I don't. But one thing I feel that I want to gain from paintball is more skill than kills. I have a automag and probably always will because there is something said when you can take out a person carrying a 2000 dollar rig with a gun that cost only a margin of that. I always try to use my automag when I'm out playing but sometimes it's nice to just have a little fun and just throw paint not caring how much I waste hitting the front side of a bunker 200 times and only getting one hit. But I will always reserve a time for me to play strictly mechanical to help out with developing my skills better. And someday I would like to play pump but I don't feel comfortable enough to go out and try that cause I probably know that I will end up getting bunkered every game.

[PBpunk]

i personaly like mechanical guns just cause i love to take em apart and learn exactly how they work. and i have no idea how any electonics work so i could never do that with a electronic gun. but i have played with angels, hyper frames, e-mags, and a few other e-guns and i have to say it is really fun to go crazy on the trigger with one of those. but i really hate it when i just go out to play for fun and there is a kid in the back with an angel that his rich dad bought him shelling out hopper after hopper from the closest bunker that he could get to off the break because he is a wuss. but in the hands of a skilled player an electro can be an awsome marker. i understand that as a back player in a tourny you have to dump loads of paint as cover fire. but playing rec you dont and it makes it a lot less fun for any newbies playing. i have no problem with high rof and i dont mind getting hit with 8 balls and i think that there is an advantage to using a high rof but you dont need to hold the trigger down the whole game and the guys useing them HAVE to use good judgement like they dont go out there and shoot 14 bps at a bunch of rentals and use high rof conservitively. but for now i am going to stick with my cocker (i can get off a quick string when i need to)