Lighter Markers...

[BigEvil]

The special effects people in Hollywood have put most of the midgets out of work, since they dont have jobs playihng ewoks and munchkins anymore, the midget lobby is invading paintball. They cant handle real-people size paintball markers True story.

Watch out for the proffesional horse Jockey Association.

[SR_matt]

actualy its the jockey guild

but idk dude id watch out for some of the jockeys my bro in law is a hall of fame jockey and dang hes a strong dude, all 5'3'' 135 lbs of him (he retired in november so hes put on a little weight)... then agin he did have to deal wil 2000 lbs of horse

-matt

[rx2]

If you think paintball is out of hand, you should look at bass fishing reels; especially the Japanese domestic reels. Some people throw a fit when they find out that a new model reel has a .5 once increase in weight - and the thing is still less than half of a pound.

Of course, there are some merits to light setups, especially if they can help you achieve better balance. I, for example, have developed a severe case of medial epicondylitis in both arms. As such, a half of a pound off of a marker can make a huge difference in the level of pain I feel when hoisting the marker, as well as when I have to move it back and forth quickly, as when running.

But, there is a diminishing return. After all, if you make the body, or other components, lighter without reducing the mass of the bolt, you will begin to feel increased recoil. This is not to mention the possibility of reducing the structural integrity.

[Dye Angel Guy]

Maybe it is just getting to the point of our technology not inventing anything else beyond the ordinary and people are running out of ideas so they have to make up new stuff that really isn't new.


P.S. Heaviest marker ever: My Minimag I used in like 2000, SP Gadget Grip, KAPP DropZone 2, Center Flag Hyper Frame, Armson Stealth, Warpfeed, 114/3000 Crossfire tank. That thing was heavy but I loved playing with it and honestly never got tired of carrying that thing around.

[WenULiVeUdiE]

P.S. Heaviest marker ever: My Minimag I used in like 2000, SP Gadget Grip, KAPP DropZone 2, Center Flag Hyper Frame, Armson Stealth, Warpfeed, 114/3000 Crossfire tank. That thing was heavy but I loved playing with it and honestly never got tired of carrying that thing around.

My "heaviest" set up was 2 years ago. I had a 2001 STO Cocker with a 114/3000 tank. However, I used a tank ring, which added half a pound. The tank Reg was one of an adjustable brass regulator, adding probably 1.5-2 pounds. The entire bottle was probably 3lbs. empty, full add 2 pounds. The entire set up weighed in at 9.5-10 lbs. I think my Viking is even or is over by .25 to .5lbs.

[ttink]

There is a differnce in weight and its affect on performance when comparing say, a new shocker to an old SS classic valved mag. Sure, you will probably be able to do things quicker with the shocker. But I really think the point of this thread was to point out how companies MUST get that one extra ounce shaved off, and that will not really affect things that much, if at all IMO.

EDIT: When my double barreled mag is finished it will proabably wiegh around 10 pounds with hoppers and the tanks.

[mag_lover05]

i play with a phantom and an emag.

with the phantom i can run like theres nothing there.... with the 10 round feed tube and a 12 grame it is lighter than your pack:) and about as heavy as a halo....

[rx2]

If you want heavy, you should have seen my friend's old VM-68 that he had in the early 90s. Not only are VMs huge and heavy to start with, but he had it set up Magnum-style with two 20oz. CO2 tanks (one in front, and one under the gripr frame), and a 16 inch brass barrel.

[Tao]

I have heard many people (some big huge guys too) complain that a warp is too heavy and they don't use it. Instead they practive shooting techniques such as holding your gun sideways so the hopper stays behind the bunker. (LOL!!!!!!!!!!!)
Anyway I think it basically boils down to that the advantage of the lower hopper thanks to the warp is not worth spending a few minutes more at the gym! :P

[Tao]

If you want heavy, you should have seen my friend's old VM-68 that he had in the early 90s. Not only are VMs huge and heavy to start with, but he had it set up Magnum-style with two 20oz. CO2 tanks (one in front, and one under the gripr frame), and a 16 inch brass barrel.

Well that would be better than a single tank right under the barel...those things are almost imposible to shoot with a tank right up front! It is sooo front heavy! I am surprised no one knows the beauty of those guns: you don't need an agitating loader to feed them since they agitate your loader on their own :P

[onedude36]

Heaviest settup: 04 unmilled viking, 68/45 apocolypse(sp) which weighed an easy 8-12 lbs by itself, halo and such.

Edit: I couldnt even shoulder it. Id kinda drag it allong behind me on a run and put the tank under my arm pit because i couldnt shoulder it very long. I now run a shocktech dm5

[blamtro]

I hope this was said with complete sarcaism in mind...

I can definitely tell the difference it takes on my body between using my X-mag and My RT-ULE Pro. When I play all day long with my X-Mag, I feel completely wasted that night and the next day. When I play all day long with my RT-ULE Pro, I don't have the same level of fatigue.

[dahoeb]

weight does matter, but only to a point. for example, a NON-uled emag with a 112ci steel tank and a warp feed will probably start to wear you down a little bit by the 6th hour of play. but you certainly don't need a 1 1/2 lb marker setup to get by, just a nice medium for whatever is comfortable for your size and/or strength.

for me, a ule rt pro with a 68ci fiberwrapped tank seem to be perfect, not too light and toy like but definately light enough so i can quickly snap and go all day without getting tired.

[ThePixelGuru]

You're all forgetting that, while a gun that weighs a couple ounces less isn't absolutely needed, it is a slight advantage. Yes, you'll be able to move it just a little faster, you'll get a little less fatigued, you can hold your marker ready for longer, etc. It's not that we absolutely need these things, but given the choice between a marker that weighs 2lbs and one that weighs 10, it's not that hard a choice to make. We don't need markers that shoot 20bps, but if we've got the choice between 18 and 20bps, we're going to take 20. We don't need a lot of things our markers can do, but if we can get them, we will. Every little bit helps, guys, and when you get to the finals in a tournament, you'll be glad to be shooting a great marker and not just a passable one.

[Toll]

The weight doesn't bother me as much as the balance.

My friend's cocker weighs quite a bit (oldschool left feed 99 series) with a warp, halob and a boom stick...Not to mention the 88/45 tank. I like it better than some setups that were lighter simply because it's weight was where it needed to be. I put my stiffi kit on there the one day and it was a huge pain in the ***, simply because it wasn't balanced like it was before.