shot an ion today..

[SR_matt]

im sorry when a company releases a marker and with in 2 months every single part has an after market replacement (or just that you can build one from teh ground up with non SP parts) it obviously has way to many problems
-matt

[iambored]

My friend got an ion and thought I was crazy for not gettin one. Wonder what he did with...

[Lohman446]

im sorry when a company releases a marker and with in 2 months every single part has an after market replacement (or just that you can build one from teh ground up with non SP parts) it obviously has way to many problems
-matt

Why? The marker performs just fine stock. Upgrades are available. I don't see the problem? The aftermarket rushed to one of the hottest selling markers of all time? What a surprise...

[SR_matt]

theres no other marker around that has upgrades for every part 2 months after the fisrt release. my impressions of the ions are of the first 6 months of them being out and working at a field, and from what ive seen i would debate that it works fine stock but thats my oppinion
-matt

[ZEROte]

im sorry when a company releases a marker and with in 2 months every single part has an after market replacement (or just that you can build one from teh ground up with non SP parts) it obviously has way to many problems
-matt

its called customization. people like different things. it doesnt mean that the ones on there arent good, just that there is an option to change it if you dont like it.

[bentothejam1n]

im sorry when a company releases a marker and with in 2 months every single part has an after market replacement (or just that you can build one from teh ground up with non SP parts) it obviously has way to many problems
-matt

Companies are just capitalizing on the ion's massive popularity. You can build a mag with aftermarket parts besides half of the vavle. i think way too many people jump on the "ion hating train" just because they hear that the ion sucks from somebody and they believe it. It kind of reminds me of a highschool gov't class

[stop whining buy a mag]

This can be said for almost every marker currently being manufactured, and quite a few that aren't anymore. The only ones off the top of my head that this doesn't apply to (with the exception of recently-released markers) are PPS and CCI products. The existence of an aftermarket does not mean the base product "sucks".

O rly? How many upgrades are available in the Kingman line of markers. What can you get for a 98/A-5 that is not made by Tippmann. Quality is obvious. Go on PBReview and search for Ion. Then look at how many upgrades they have listed. 62 upgrades for a gun. When you search Tippmann, you'll notice that the majority of the upgrades come from Tippmann or BT. Most of them are either RT's, E-bolts, or Double Triggers.

I still can't believe people defend the Ion. For a new player that does not know what to expect out of a gun, the Ion is probably the way in. For anyone who plays on a regular basis and does tournaments the Ion sucks. Too many corners cut by SP.

[paintman1234]

if you were a company, and saw a $250 marker for sale with 17 bps an option you would make as many upgrades for it as you can.

for those saying the body looks ugly, sure its made of plastic, but I hate to say it but look at the mag bodies....(this coming from a mag owner) your stuck with a straight tube unless you want to fork out HUGE!!! amounts of money for a deadly wind body or a slug...

Ion's are right now the best value in paintball, sure they arnt top of the line out of the box but did you really expect them to be when you paid $200 for it?

[robnix]

for those saying the body looks ugly, sure its made of plastic, but I hate to say it but look at the mag bodies....(this coming from a mag owner) your stuck with a straight tube unless you want to fork out HUGE!!! amounts of money for a deadly wind body or a slug...

It's all personal taste. I like the straight tube over most any other marker out there. It's a clean and elegant look that no other marker does as well. Some people like the uber milled look of some markers, some like the riceboi look of the ion. It's all personal taste.

:)

[paintman1234]

I aggree,

personally I think bolth are ugly, But I could care less how it looks... as long as it shoots people im happy. But if i wanted to I could get a new ion body on ebay for like under $100

I dont know what kartas and stuff are going for latly but probly around $250? You can see the diffrence anyway.

[MoeMag]

Hey I bought one of these little monsters for a backup gun and well...
Not bad.
I still need to put a reg on it but other than that all of the internals have been replaced.
It has a virtue board, qev, shocktech bolt, clamping feedneck, and a freak barrel.
I will say straight up, these guns are cool. there are a few problems with them straight out of the box, but that is just an example of SP quality control. I have had to deal with numerous buttons fall off the board, screws stripped from the factory, frame/body screws not alighning, bad boards, feednecks stripping out, eye boards corroding, and triggers breaking just to name a few but thankfully not on mine. but after all that, they really are nice little guns.

[Jack & Coke]

RRfireblade and deathstalker are correct.

As far as performance, reliability, and customization/upgrade options go, the Ion is a great value at $199!

If that was my budget for an electro paintball gun, I'd certainly consider it my top choice.

[Banshee23]

O rly? How many upgrades are available in the Kingman line of markers. What can you get for a 98/A-5 that is not made by Tippmann. Quality is obvious. Go on PBReview and search for Ion. Then look at how many upgrades they have listed. 62 upgrades for a gun.

How does having alot of aftermarket parts available for a marker qualify it as being garbage? I can buy an aftermarket upgrade for every single part on a Cocker too, doesn't mean it's a bad marker. I'm not a huge ION fan but lots of people around here shoot em with little to no problems.

[Lohman446]

The more I hear "reasoning" on why the Ion sucks the more I realize how much some people are like zealots. No offense

[geekwarrior]

I don't think they're too bad...definately need an on/off, and I hate the front reg, the thing spins all around and just feels cheap, but replace that, the on/off, get a clamping feedneck, and its not a bad little gun...