shot an ion today..

[Lohman446]

Edit: to the poster who said Breakbeam eyes, Uhm, no, they arent, not until you get the Virtue eyes. The stockers are a Bouncer type beam.

It has dual bounce eyes? SP advertises it as break beam, why is it not break beam? I see two eyes...

[Chaos_Theory!]

Edit: to the poster who said Breakbeam eyes, Uhm, no, they arent, not until you get the Virtue eyes. The stockers are a Bouncer type beam.

Hate to bust your balls kid but the stock ion does have break beam eyes. Virtue eyes just light up as well as being break beam.

[glickstue]

[REDRT]

No matter what upgrades one does it will not feel like a mag. For me that is grounds for dismissal.

[Ydna]

yes, the gun comes with beam-break eyes. Just about every gun does, except for E-blade cockers and Shockers/Impulses/Nerves.

However I must say the exact amount of "required" upgrades is a HUGE case of personal preference.

I would say a new trigger would be a good investment if you don't like the stock one. A new feedneck would be nice too. Also a barrel kit.
Beyond that, you already have a gun that shoots as fast as you need, has eyes, gets relatively decent efficiency, is lightweight, what else do you need?

All a bolt will do is reduce recoil. You can change that by yourself just by shooting different.
New fire chamebr is pointless unless you want to have yours be a different color than black...or hell you could also buy a new one in black...
QEV is good to have, nice for efficiency but not a requirement.
Board is also nice to have, but not a requirement.
New reg isn't needed unless you get a finnicky one, or just don't like the idea of "stock'.
New lazer eye board....pointless.

Don't get me wrong, I've got nothing against upgrades but a TON of the stuff for the Ion is released and promoted while pushing the bull**** meter to the top. Companies will not hesitate to take advantage of kids that don't know what looks flashy and what functions better. I don't know how much my Ion cost but I'm sure it was very expensive. But I own another two which are nearly stock, and would function just fine if needed...

[afortuna]

I'd take the barrel kit out of the equation

since most markers we buy will usually need one anyway. Now, when I say a barrel kit I'm also including in that definition just an upgraded barrel. Anyway you look at it, most markers need a new barrel to better match paint for great efficiency. This isn't a defect of the ION alone.

Stock board is fine. Most places won't let you shoot above 15BPS anyway. I loved the replacement body, but it was purely for looks. Id did not help the marker any. QEV is a good upgrade for clearly under $20. Firing can doesn't need to be replaced. There are claims of efficiency, but nothing is proven. $1,100 is a considerable overstatement.

[mag_lover05]

My Ion has little kick, good efficiency and just as fast as any high gun.

good god its pbn all over again. an ion is not a high end gun. i cant believe im saying this on AO. i never thought it we would see such conversations.

[Lohman446]

good god its pbn all over again. an ion is not a high end gun. i cant believe im saying this on AO. i never thought it we would see such conversations.

Yeh, but that was before we had people blatantly dismissing a marker just because of its manufacturer.. . Though I will question the just as fast as anything claim I also question why its not "as good as anything else" in a capped ramping situation.

[kenndogg]

good god its pbn all over again. an ion is not a high end gun. i cant believe im saying this on AO. i never thought it we would see such conversations.

Hey kid, did I ever state the Ion was a high end gun? I said it could keep up with any high end gun. The point I'm trying to make is it's a great gun for the money with a lot of desired features found in many of the high end guns out there.
15bps capped ramping is the same regardless of which gun it comes out of.

[Chaos_Theory!]

No matter what upgrades one does it will not feel like a mag. For me that is grounds for dismissal.

Sorry, but thats pretty damn pathetic. Mags are great guns but guns that arent just like them are just as good in most cases. Being a major fan boy like that is kind of odd.