Designing a "cheater" system

[Chronobreak]

i think lohman has started the alloted number of post for this month

as for the microswitch...i want one

[paintman1234]

pneumagger- there was a video were a guy had made an impulse go full auto by holding a magnet up to the trigger frame (magnet in glove) and that connected a switch for a full auto option of some sort

Im guessing that is sort of what you after?

[Pneumagger]

I'm not familiar with what your talking about, but it mosst likely was a hall switch or electrified magnetic lever. Most likely the hall though.

I'm really talking about modifying a trigger switch be actuated while pulled and resting. If the debounce on the board is set right, it will read the midpoint of the microswitch changeover as a "release" and fire the gun when the trigger is forward or backwards.
AKA - hypermode (fires on pull and release), if you pull 8 it shoots 16, if you pull 14 it shoots 28, etc.

You will pretty much want to have an adjustable debounce and a board that can shot-buffer. But my 10BPS capped Dragun led board was great if I pulled less than 5 bps...it had no buffer so it would start to skip shots.

[RRfireblade]

You don't even need to 'cheat' anymore , isn't all that stuff basically legal now?


I've yet to be in a Tourny in the last 2 years that ANYONE anywhere checked on field ROF. After the initial tech inspection they usually don't check anything but FPS. If Tourny locks and ROF is easy enuff to change on the field too. Not to mention 'Break out" modes and the like.

Wasn't it Greenspan that when finally got checked was shooting 22bps? I'm sure that was the first time he's ever done that. First time he got caught tho.

[kayvon]

besides the point that its cheating and dangerous. make it some insane ramp instead of holding the trigger down, less noticable.
also for activation have a magnetic switch in the trigger fram that is activated by a magnet hidden in your glove. i have heard of this one being done before, but that way when the ref takes the gun then it will be completely legal.

anyways it still sounds dangerous with the velocity jumps, i say leave that part out. leave some of it to skill

[paintman1234]

for activation have a magnetic switch in the trigger fram that is activated by a magnet hidden in your glove. i have heard of this one being done before, but that way when the ref takes the gun then it will be completely legal.

thats what im talking about, basicly you are setting 2 settings a normal legal mode when there is no magnet close and then a mode only activated when there is a magnet close to it (in your glove)

[Pneumagger]

I posted that idea on the first page with a detailed scheme for it to activate a "hyper" mode. I think I even posted something like this back in the spring.
But no one listens to me

[behemoth]

I posted that idea on the first page with a detailed scheme for it to activate a "hyper" mode. I think I even posted something like this back in the spring.
But no one listens to me

Joe, its because nobody likes you.

[onedude36]

I posted that idea on the first page with a detailed scheme for it to activate a "hyper" mode. I think I even posted something like this back in the spring.
But no one listens to me

Dont cry. I've got that idea too, prolly from somone, maybe you,, way back when. Im trying to implement it now. Well see how that goes.

[SlartyBartFast]

I hope you don't think this particular thread was as simplistic as it looks

Seems to me it probably is. With the hypocrit trolling you've been going for lately, I assume you'll get everyone worked up on this new system and proclaim:
"HA! RT's pulled just right 'cheat' just like this. So both are cheating and should be banned."

Anyways, the idea is stupid. With a normal microswitch it is simple to program a switch tap code or sequence to enter illegal modes. To make it indetectable, a simple sustained pull over a second could reset operation to "normal".

[hitech]

With a normal microswitch it is simple to program a switch tap code or sequence to enter illegal modes. To make it indetectable, a simple sustained pull over a second could reset operation to "normal".

Simple enough that it has been done before.

[Lohman446]

Seems to me it probably is. With the hypocrit trolling you've been going for lately, I assume you'll get everyone worked up on this new system and proclaim:
"HA! RT's pulled just right 'cheat' just like this. So both are cheating and should be banned."

Anyways, the idea is stupid. With a normal microswitch it is simple to program a switch tap code or sequence to enter illegal modes. To make it indetectable, a simple sustained pull over a second could reset operation to "normal".

I don't care what both are... I care that the similarities of both are acknowledged. Not to say I don't acknowledge the differences of course

[SlartyBartFast]

I don't care what both are... I care that the similarities of both are acknowledged. Not to say I don't acknowledge the differences of course

So Lohamn, why can't you simply have a discussion and keep it to one thread instead of being "smart", evasive, and trying time and time again in different treads?

The tactic is getting old dude.

YOU'RE being the hypocrit avoid open discussion! I've already had some agree with me on that point. You're not winning any friends or influence with your tactics.

[Lohman446]

So Lohamn, why can't you simply have a discussion and keep it to one thread instead of being "smart", evasive, and trying time and time again in different treads?

The tactic is getting old dude.

YOU'RE being the hypocrit avoid open discussion! I've already had some agree with me on that point. You're not winning any friends or influence with your tactics.

Wait a minute. Rogue opens a thread to discuss a comment I made, adn somehow that thread is attributed to me. A comment made, in reponse to the BS term "artificial BPS". Somehow its me thats opening all these threads.

I opened this thread and one other thread taking a different approach to illustrate a point. Your smart enough to understand that

[SlartyBartFast]

I opened this thread and one other thread taking a different approach to illustrate a point. Your smart enough to understand that

You opened two threads, another was started based on your accusation.

Illustrate you points in one thread if you can. Otherwise you're just trying to avoid the opinion that stacked up against you in the other thread.

That's my opinion at least.

Seriously, how many analogies do you need to come up with to illustrate the same point? And how do you expect anyone to respect your other thread when the point is the same, and the analogy is shot down with exactly the same counter arguments.

Sorry.