Lack Of Air?

[StygShore]

shens...

A case out of a 48/3000 tank?

I think not....


Styg


Your post count is getting up there pretty good from all these "my friend said..." posts though :)

[Chronobreak]

A case out of a 48/3000 tank?

I think not....


Styg


Your post count is getting up there pretty good from all these "my friend said..." posts though :)

oh and plenty of other very usefull post

show me an ion getting 2k rounds at 280 fps il send ya $20(stock ion)
ive ntoiced ions to be less efficent than mags in general

i wouldnt expect more than 500 shots from either mag or ion with a 47/3k

[don miguel]

oh and plenty of other very usefull post

show me an ion getting 2k rounds at 280 fps il send ya $20(stock ion)
ive ntoiced ions to be less efficent than mags in general

i wouldnt expect more than 500 shots from either mag or ion with a 47/3k

I think not, mabe I was over exadurating he gets at leas 3/4 of a case with a 48/3000 and a palmer stabilizer as a reg. Mabe my tank is messed up Im not getting that much eg- 300 rounds out of a 3000/48.

[StygShore]

shots

1500 shots on a 48/3000?

someone want to figure the actual gas comsumtion on that?


Styg

[fire1811]

Your post count is getting up there pretty good from all these "my friend said..." posts though :)

Along with 68 other PW posts

[don miguel]

Along with 68 other PW posts

sorry i dont want to use his name online. that would kind of be bad if he didn't know that I did it. His ion is incredibally (i dont care if I spelled that wrong) air efficent (or that) and I am jealous that the mag isnt I guess thats not a problem if you have all day air.

[Pneumagger]

Don, let me explain something here...

The AKA Viking is the benchmark for efficiency. It gets just over a case per 68/4500 if everything is running smoothly. The same viking that gets 2000+ shots on a 68/4500 might get 900 shots on a 47/3000. An Ego might get 750 shots off a 47/3000.

I'm sorry, but a budget spooler gun, even with a QEV and upgraded bolt, isn't going to get much better than 500 rounds off a 47/3000. Ions have nearly identical efficiency to 'mags... period.

[don miguel]

Don, let me explain something here...

The AKA Viking is the benchmark for efficiency. It gets just over a case per 68/4500 if everything is running smoothly. The same viking that gets 2000+ shots on a 68/4500 might get 900 shots on a 47/3000. An Ego might get 750 shots off a 47/3000.

I'm sorry, but a budget spooler gun, even with a QEV and upgraded bolt, isn't going to get much better than 500 rounds off a 47/3000. Ions have nearly identical efficiency to 'mags... period.

Thanks for your reply, and I have one question. I will probably get flamed for this but you might know the awnser and it's not about air, but what are emag lowers? is that an emag conversion kit or something? Can you get an emag trigger frame for a minimag? I just want to know. Thanks

[MarkM]

Thanks for your reply, and I have one question. I will probably get flamed for this but you might know the awnser and it's not about air, but what are emag lowers? is that an emag conversion kit or something? Can you get an emag trigger frame for a minimag? I just want to know. Thanks

Looks like you have begun to listen

Sensible question about the emag lowers...admittedly I do know what they are, though I for one have never understood why the term is used as it is....I will leave the answer for another to tell you.

[SR_matt]

please correct me if i am wrong but

emag lowers are the trigger frame and battery on the emag rail the term lowers is becasue it is the lower part of the gun, u can basicaly bolt it onto any body and vavle and u have an emag

-matt

[StygShore]

lowers

Emag Lowers are the lower rail assembly of an E-mag including the rail, sear assembly, battery pack, and grip frame.


Aside from the ClassicRT mag, you can use this lower assembly on any Upper body assembly, Karta, Dalara, ULE, Powerfeed, whatever.


Styg

[gibby]

Actually, you'd have to modify the Emag rail to accept the powerfeed bodies like the minimag body.

[MarkM]

The last three posts are sensible in what they say but I will explain what I meant about the way the term has been used. very often in For Sale threads (or look at my 'Mag) you see this lower and that lower (not always E-Mag) but the way in which they are used in the For Sale thread (or Look at my 'Mag) indicates that they are upgrade parts, swaps is what they are most of the time, if they improve the performance is in more than a few cases up for discussion, most of the time it is simply a different cosmetic look.
It has become a buzz term and doesn't help anyone really as many of the For sale threads will also say upgraded lowers....come on just say what it really has. IE Rogue rail etc etc. sure a lot of rails can be interchanged but they don't add to the performance it is purely a looks thing.
The differing configurations of the on/off pin etc ARE upgrades but then as I see the discussions they are often awkward and depend on other parts being used. It is things like this that make me glad my mag just sits in the cupboard Yes it is upgraded to a point, Valve, FFV, Q-Tip, Bolt, Sear but not what I want or need to use anymore.

[StygShore]

uh uuuu

Not if it was a standard emag rail that had not been ULEd

Orginal Emags were twist lock also

Actually, you'd have to modify the Emag rail to accept the powerfeed bodies like the minimag body.

[MarkM]

Some consider weight to be a performance upgrade, not just purely for looks. A stock E-mag/RT Pro rails weighs in around 7-8 oz. The shadow rail between 2.7-3.0 oz. A 4-5 oz savings...thats nearly 1/4 lb!

Food for thought.

Granted that is in the extreme end of things, the RT was a damned heavy marker to begin with so anything I guess would be a performance upgrade on that particular marker but on the regular mags is more what I was getting at. I used to use a Shoebox Shocker on CO2 so a few ounces doesn't bother me Quite often the weight isn't really an issue as a well balanced (for the individual user) marker will perform better. My setup (non mag) is physically heavier than some others Timmy or Egos but everyone who has borrowed it doesn't want to give it back as when they used it it felt lighter than what they had been using.