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  • shartley
    paintball player
    • Mar 2001
    • 9169

    #31

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    • don miguel
      the legend
      • Sep 2006
      • 1141

      #32
      Thanks, that is a very educated awnser, and i personally really do like PPS markers, especially the double barelled typhoon. I saw one at a scenario game once, but the woman (I know I was shocked too, you dont see many weomen with paintball guns these days) that had it wouldent let me hold, or shoot it. She said it was a very good gun and scared alot of people. It was also semi automatic, she had two evo2s on it. The thing looked awesome. I think that if PPS and AGD joined forces that they could make a really cool and well designed gun. It would be like a blazer mag or something like that.

      OH YEAH BABY WOO HOO!

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      • Lohman446
        Useful posts: 7
        • Jun 2003
        • 9315

        #33
        It would be a panther...
        "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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        • rkjunior303
          I need this more than you
          • May 2003
          • 4029

          #34
          I've never had a problem with Anthony or anyone else at BPS..... I can see where they're coming from, though. AGD is severely a niche market now and when it comes to the masses, it's just not that common. Why stock something you may sell only a handful of parts for in the course of a year (or maybe two).. Ya knw?

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          • don miguel
            the legend
            • Sep 2006
            • 1141

            #35
            Originally posted by rkjunior303
            I've never had a problem with Anthony or anyone else at BPS..... I can see where they're coming from, though. AGD is severely a niche market now and when it comes to the masses, it's just not that common. Why stock something you may sell only a handful of parts for in the course of a year (or maybe two).. Ya knw?
            QUESTION: is anthony the one that is always there with the we kill suckers shirt on all the time? I was there this saturday and he was giving me all this crap about owning a mag, like "those guns suck up too much air","they are so slow and dont keep up with the market", and he was trying to make me buy his last automag twist lock freak barell in stock for 53$ when the rest are only 50 (for other threaded guns). I have never had problems there in the past but on saturday, he really made me feel bad for spending my money on a mag. I really like my minimag but he kept putting AGD down. I found it wierd. I told him that Fox4 sercvices and sells mags, and parts (they used too until this saturday according too the guy at BP). But he says that "oh my buddies at fox 4 just stopped selling and repairing mags, mabe you should sell your mag and go for something like the new shocker". He was being annoying. When I asked him if he had minimag orings he charged me $1.04 for each of the two I had too replace, and said that was a good price too. I found that wierd. I kind of expected that because BP is a bunch of scammers (in my opinion) because they are the only Pb shop near me, so thats all I got.

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            • gibby
              Kahuna Studios
              • Jan 2002
              • 2507

              #36
              Don...of course he's going to try to sell you something new. It's part of his job. Not to mention selling you something new means that you'll probably be in there buying new stuff to upgrade your new toy. But some of the stuff he says is true. Compared to what's out there now, the mag is a gas hog and although it might have the fastest recharge rate(RT/X Valve), achieving speeds that actually takes advantage of it is hard to do.

              Also, back in the day when companies made twist lock barrels, the mag barrels were usually more expensive. Definitely more than the $3 difference with the other freak kits you saw at the store. As for the price of some of the parts you're buying, compare those with what's on AGD's online store.

              Honestly, if you're going into a store nowadays talking about your mag, expect to hear otherwise from the store owners/employees/customers. It's nothing new if you're a long time mag owner.
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              • KC
                "TheWonderfulBatteryMan"
                • Aug 2004
                • 1812

                #37
                1) Xmags/Emags are no longer produced.

                2) Tom retired from AGD

                3) Deadlywind has stopped building bodies for AGD markers

                4) Slug bodie no longer availabe

                5) Colored X-valve no longer available

                6) Replacement ACE no longer available

                7) AO is paid for out of pocket by Tom (thanks) Not sponsored by AGD

                8) Very few retailers stock AGD markers compared to years past

                9) AGD europe is focusing on distribution/sales for "National"

                10) AGD has not released a new marker or a major upgrade in the last 2 years.

                Now I love my AGD Automags as much as the next guy but im not blind... And those of you who say agd is popular, i have not played with another automag (not owned by me) for the last 10 years. Spiders, 98s, a5s, cockers, angels, shockers sure, but NEVER another AGD gun.

                I hope AGD does something to light the AGD fire back up in the marker, or yes, "it's all down hill from here."

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                • don miguel
                  the legend
                  • Sep 2006
                  • 1141

                  #38
                  Originally posted by KCs-RTule
                  1) Xmags/Emags are no longer produced.

                  2) Tom retired from AGD

                  3) Deadlywind has stopped building bodies for AGD markers

                  4) Slug bodie no longer availabe

                  5) Colored X-valve no longer available

                  6) Replacement ACE no longer available

                  7) AO is paid for out of pocket by Tom (thanks) Not sponsored by AGD

                  8) Very few retailers stock AGD markers compared to years past

                  9) AGD europe is focusing on distribution/sales for "National"

                  10) AGD has not released a new marker or a major upgrade in the last 2 years.

                  Now I love my AGD Automags as much as the next guy but im not blind... And those of you who say agd is popular, i have not played with another automag (not owned by me) for the last 10 years. Spiders, 98s, a5s, cockers, angels, shockers sure, but NEVER another AGD gun.

                  I hope AGD does something to light the AGD fire back up in the marker, or yes, "it's all down hill from here."
                  I must question your response. Emags and custom emags are available. And if AGD dosent sponsor AO then why when you buy a product from them, why do they send you an "official member ship card to AO"? I got one when I bought my minimag, warp, and Ygrip. Now I have three. So correct me if I am wrong but what is the deal with the membership cards then? (I have one in my wallet).

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                  • don miguel
                    the legend
                    • Sep 2006
                    • 1141

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Lohman446
                    It would be a panther...
                    GRRRRRRRRRROWL!

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                    • shartley
                      paintball player
                      • Mar 2001
                      • 9169

                      #40
                      Originally posted by don miguel
                      I must question your response. Emags and custom emags are available. And if AGD dosent sponsor AO then why when you buy a product from them, why do they send you an "official member ship card to AO"? I got one when I bought my minimag, warp, and Ygrip. Now I have three. So correct me if I am wrong but what is the deal with the membership cards then? (I have one in my wallet).
                      Automags.org is the OFFICIAL Automags Owners Group. The site is owned and operated by Airgun Designs, and provides a place where players can come together and interact.

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                      its more like a paper cut that has primadonna's yelling murder... - Glickman

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                      • don miguel
                        the legend
                        • Sep 2006
                        • 1141

                        #41
                        Oh sweet thanks.

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                        • SpecialBlend2786
                          Registered User
                          • Jun 2003
                          • 4023

                          #42
                          Originally posted by don miguel
                          why do they send you an "official member ship card to AO"? I got one when I bought my minimag, warp, and Ygrip. Now I have three. So correct me if I am wrong but what is the deal with the membership cards then? (I have one in my wallet).
                          hahahaha

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                          • 11 Bravo
                            Predatored Karta Mag
                            • May 2005
                            • 1247

                            #43
                            Originally posted by don miguel
                            So correct me if I am wrong but what is the deal with the membership cards then? (I have one in my wallet).
                            Whatever you do - DON'T lose your membership card!

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                            • warbeak2099
                              That is my foot!
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 4447

                              #44
                              Originally posted by 11 Bravo
                              Whatever you do - DON'T loose your membership card!
                              I'm going to laminate mine...
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                              • AGD-OfficeGal
                                Dragon Lady
                                • Sep 2001
                                • 418

                                #45
                                Hi guys--

                                AGD-USA pays to keep Automags.org online.

                                Marcia
                                AGD-USA

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