Soo...about that Infiniti Legend...

[SpecialBlend2786]

I've been doing a little bit of research on it, look pretty awesome. Sure, it's a FASOR but from the video's that I've seen and from what the owners have said, it looks like a good deal. Has anyone here had any experience with it?

Thanks for your time, as always.

[don miguel]

Im probably completely wrong, but when I saw the infinity in splat magazine, it looked like an entry level marker. Im talking in the ion level of the social class. It didn't look too fancy. There wasn't much info on it, just about the threadless feedneck and the eyes. But now many spiders have eyes too. I wasn't too impressed. Mabe it really is a good marker and I could be totally wron wich I probably am. Heck I thought the bob long defiant was a beginner gun when I first started playing. How many BPS does it do?

[CoolHand]

Im probably completely wrong, but when I saw the infinity in splat magazine, it looked like an entry level marker. Im talking in the ion level of the social class. It didn't look too fancy. There wasn't much info on it, just about the threadless feedneck and the eyes. But now many spiders have eyes too. I wasn't too impressed. Mabe it really is a good marker and I could be totally wron wich I probably am. Heck I thought the bob long defiant was a beginner gun when I first started playing. How many BPS does it do?

I'm gonna tell you straight.

Once you cross the JABB line, there aren't really any "entry level" markers anymore.

A D2 will shoot just as fast as a DM9, or an AngelOne, or a Timmy, or a whatever. It's all the same anymore. You can "Pwn" people with an Ion just as easily as you can an Ego. Really.

There are things that are a little nicer on the more expensive markers, but if it's just the ability to shoot paint in the direction you ask it to, just about anything will do the job well enough that it's your own skill level that limits you, NOT the marker.

Honestly, IMO the upturned noses at the mention of the term FASOR is nothing but snobbery. The fact that the marker uses a spring, in no way limits it's ability to shoot paintballs effectively. I have never understood that snobbery that plagues the PB, though I suppose one need not look farther than the consumer's need to justify spending twice as much money for the same end result (other than "I just wanted it" that is).

[FlawleZ]

Very true. My words exactly.

[punkncat]

Sorry, must not be leetsp33k fluent, or whatever...maybe just not AGG enough.

What is?

FASOR

JABB


Thx

[CoolHand]

Sorry, must not be leetsp33k fluent, or whatever...maybe just not AGG enough.

What is?

FASOR

JABB


Thx

Sorry, I should have broken out the acronyms.

FASOR is a "super cool" new acronym brought about by one company or another to describe the air forward spring return type of electropneumatic marker. Think BKO or Sypder EM1. The acronym breaks out as Forward Air Spring On Return. Just like all other "super cool" made up acronyms they added in letters and words to make the resulting acronym sound "super cool" so they could use it in their marketing.

JABB is a term that sprouted from I don't know where. It stands for Just Another Blow Back, making reference to the fact that there are about 10,000 Spyder type stacked tube blowbacks out there, nearly all identical in performance and assembly.

[onedude36]

'so what new gun did u get?'
'I got a FASOR'
'like in star trek?'
lol. thats a funny acronym.

anyway, i didnt really like the one i shot. it kicked way too much, much more than i timmy i felt. It also sounded really gay, call me crazy but i think i can hear the spring returning the ram, although im sure thats not an important charicteristic in a marker....i really wouldnt buy one, though the trigger is kinda cool if your into that style of trigger...its really easy to 3 finger too. i really didnt find anything special about it, that I could pick out anyway. I duno, i guess it really didnt feel too solid. I think this gun is deffinately a try before you buy kinda thing.

[CoolHand]

'so what new gun did u get?'
'I got a FASOR'
'like in star trek?'
lol. thats a funny acronym.

anyway, i didnt really like the one i shot. it kicked way too much, much more than i timmy i felt. It also sounded really gay, call me crazy but i think i can hear the spring returning the ram, although im sure thats not an important charicteristic in a marker....i really wouldnt buy one, though the trigger is kinda cool if your into that style of trigger...its really easy to 3 finger too. i really didnt find anything special about it, that I could pick out anyway. I duno, i guess it really didnt feel too solid. I think this gun is deffinately a try before you buy kinda thing.

Well, I tend to agree. All the Air Forward/Spring Return markers I've shot (and I've not shot a Legend, just to be clear) have felt chincy, but I don't think that's BECAUSE it was a AFSR. I think it's just a byproduct of all the AFSR's being a mid to low price range marker.

I see no reason why you couldn't turn out a very high quality AFSR (Air Forward Spring Return - take that FASOR!) that didn't feel chincy. It's just a matter of market perception anymore, companies don't use AFSR systems in high ends because it is perceived by the market as being a system used only by "low-end" markers.

Honestly, a AFSR systems makes for a much simpler and easier to build marker. I don't see any engineering reason that they would automatically be "inferior" to AFAR (Air Forward Air Return) systems.

I should design a sealed gas spring type of AFSR and call it a AFSAR or a SARAF. It works for F1 cars, why not PB markers?

I'll put that on my list of crap to do. . . . . . . . . item #1,459,345,975,001

Just after making two clones of myself but just before world domination.

[mag_lover05]

whats with all the electro markers?? they all do the same thing...

i see no problem with mechanical blowback guns. they always work. ive put my tippmann A-5 through hell and back and its never stopped working. same with my minimag.

the 2 workhorses in paintball if i do say so myself. not a big fan of the whole "1337" electropneuwhateversupercoollazerblasterlightningh owitzercannon.

i only own blow backs. neither have needed to be repaired or have had problems.

[Piranti]

Rather funny that folks posting that a FASOR is a chincy type of gun and feels cheap.........Umm a mag is a FASOR.........blow forward spring return.....

[Jackel411]

I got to handle one of the Infinitys in person.. There suprisingly big and have a horrid feel to them and for the price point its almost seems unfinished there are several sharp edges on the trigger and other parts as well..

Neat but not $700 bucks neat

[CoolHand]

Rather funny that folks posting that a FASOR is a chincy type of gun and feels cheap.........Umm a mag is a FASOR.........blow forward spring return.....

Only one guy has said that, and he is essentially a "tool box".

I said they don't have to be chincy, but that the market perceives them to be so.

Big difference.

Also, the Mag has a sear, so that's a totally different animal.

[rkjunior303]

Only one guy has said that, and he is essentially a "tool box".

I said they don't have to be chincy, but that the market perceives them to be so.

Big difference.

Also, the Mag has a sear, so that's a totally different animal.

OH NOOES!!!111!!!1!!

It's a SEAR TRIPPER FASOR!!! The HORROR

[CoolHand]

OH NOOES!!!111!!!1!!

It's a SEAR TRIPPER FASOR!!! The HORROR

Why do people always assume that different = bad?

There is nothing wrong with having a sear in a system, it's presence just makes it different from the typical AFSR electro.

Everyone needs to chill out and stash the roll-eyes guy for a while.

You're all getting to be like those hypersensitive protester chick cliche's that everyone expects to see at college. You totally flip out at anything you think even hints at bad vibes towards the mag, and honestly, it's begining to grate.

Don't be that girl.

[Arstron]

If you are intrested in the Legend, take a look at the new Fusion. They are made similar, the legend does have more modes more adjustments on the board (the fusion has semi or ramping at 15 or 20bps.), but the fusion does use an optical eye sensor to detect trigger pulls like the Eblades and egos. The fusion also had a LPR where the legend does not, the Legend does weight a few ounces less though if thats your cup of tea. What sets them apart more is the Fusion is only $350 with new board going to be released soon.