Soo...about that Infiniti Legend...

[SpecialBlend2786]

Hahaha, thanks Coolhand and everyone else for clearing some things up for me. I actually think the FASOR (or AFSR :P ) design is pretty neat. Maybe it wasn't looked upon very highly because it was always incorperated into cheaper designs and never built from the ground up. Now in the Legend and Fusion, looks like it's been implemented pretty well.

I only bring this up because I've been offered a fully loaded Legend for my Sonic Cyborg, and although I still don't think I'll trade or ever give up my borg, the Legend still caught my eye enough to consider it. It looks comfortable as hell without the lpr, and is supposed to get great efficiency.

The Fusion looks pretty cool too, but I like the look of the Legend better. I actually really like how it looks for some odd reason.

Any more opinions?

[don miguel]

I'm gonna tell you straight.

Once you cross the JABB line, there aren't really any "entry level" markers anymore.

A D2 will shoot just as fast as a DM9, or an AngelOne, or a Timmy, or a whatever. It's all the same anymore. You can "Pwn" people with an Ion just as easily as you can an Ego. Really.

There are things that are a little nicer on the more expensive markers, but if it's just the ability to shoot paint in the direction you ask it to, just about anything will do the job well enough that it's your own skill level that limits you, NOT the marker.

Honestly, IMO the upturned noses at the mention of the term FASOR is nothing but snobbery. The fact that the marker uses a spring, in no way limits it's ability to shoot paintballs effectively. I have never understood that snobbery that plagues the PB, though I suppose one need not look farther than the consumer's need to justify spending twice as much money for the same end result (other than "I just wanted it" that is).

Perfectly said, and I am sorry for being wrong in my statement. My spyder electra acs 05' w? rocking trigger could shoot much faster and as accurate ac my friend's DMC. I agree that it's how the paint exits the barrell that makes the marker.

[Lenny]

Perfectly said, and I am sorry for being wrong in my statement. My spyder electra acs 05' w? rocking trigger could shoot much faster and as accurate ac my friend's DMC. I agree that it's how the paint exits the barrell that makes the marker.

*sniff, sniff* Hmm... Do I smell sarcasm?










(That should have it's own owl )

[buzzboy]

Sure hope so Lenny, HP spyders uncock after a little over 15(or all the ones I have shot. One uncocked after 10)

[don miguel]

Sure hope so Lenny, HP spyders uncock after a little over 15(or all the ones I have shot. One uncocked after 10)

Does happen, but when I maxed out my egg2 with full batteries and full speed 28bps feed rate, I could walk the trigger about 18-20 bps. I had my spyder electra acs 05 w/ rocking trigger. It has two respawn points and anyone can walk it. It is so easy. And faster than a DMC in my opinion.

[Head knight of Ni]

Does happen, but when I maxed out my egg2 with full batteries and full speed 28bps feed rate, I could walk the trigger about 18-20 bps. I had my spyder electra acs 05 w/ rocking trigger. It has two respawn points and anyone can walk it. It is so easy. And faster than a DMC in my opinion.

nani/what/que/WTF^^?

Gun makes 0 difference as long as it is consistent. All that matters is the paintball and the position of the gun when firing.

[benzy2]

Personally I dont get the point of a FASOR. Many of the lower cost ones were setup poorly and had speed issues. Not a problem due to it being FASOR but just the follow through. There have been more than a few ungodly fast FASOR guns though. Still unless I am seeing the design wrong it will always be slightly limited compared to an identical full EP gun. The difference would be in the kick.

A normal full EP gun has only the weight of the cyclic mass to get moving to open the valve. The FASOR has to move that same mass plus compress a spring. There is no way to get around that, again assuming everything else is identical. For cycling speed to be fairly fast you would seem to need a high LPR pressure and a fairly stiff spring which both hurt kick. Now this may be on a much smaller scale in reality than I am thinking and they may have made the gun feel very very close to every other EP out there. Still it just seems like a mediocre design that will always start at a disadvantage. Again this may be smaller and smaller the better the manufacturer makes the gun but its something so easy to get around I dont see the point not to. Its not like the noids are a ton different in cost or like making a single acting ram is much cheaper than a dual acting ram. For the money they are asking I just dont see the reasoning behind buying one.

And for the record I havent used one. I would love to try it to get a better gauge on the differences of it between other stacked tube EP guns. Still I doubt even if it is great I would get it over say a used alias or such.

[Toll]

Does happen, but when I maxed out my egg2 with full batteries and full speed 28bps feed rate, I could walk the trigger about 18-20 bps. I had my spyder electra acs 05 w/ rocking trigger. It has two respawn points and anyone can walk it. It is so easy. And faster than a DMC in my opinion.

Then you totally grabbed the quad damage and rail gun...Right off the respawn.

[kenndogg]

While the Legend does look promising I would be hard press to get this when one could get the Dangrous Powers Fusion for much cheaper. From what I understand both a FASOR correct?

also does anyone know if the manufacture of the Legend the same company that made the stock angel barrels for the older angels?

[SpecialBlend2786]

While the Legend does look promising I would be hard press to get this when one could get the Dangrous Powers Fusion for much cheaper. From what I understand both a FASOR correct?

also does anyone know if the manufacture of the Legend the same company that made the stock angel barrels for the older angels?

Well, I;ve been offered a Legend in a trade, which is why i'm asking.

And you're thinking of the Infinity barrels (which used to be called Jacko barrels)

The Legend is made by a different Infinity company, something to do with Warped Sportz LA

[nevtangle]

Well, I;ve been offered a Legend in a trade, which is why i'm asking.

And you're thinking of the Infinity barrels (which used to be called Jacko barrels)

The Legend is made by a different Infinity company, something to do with Warped Sportz LA

Yes they were designed by someone w/ Warped Sportz, Glen I think. Anyhow, a buddy of mine shoots one and loves it. He has a bunch of vids on PBN. He has been doing all the videos for the Legend. See if you can get any info over there. His name over there is Johnny05 or something like that. He is the man to ask. All I know is that they shoot really nice and are really efficient. Of course they are fast and light, like most new electro's.

Edit: here's a promo video I found the link to http://www.center50.com/videos/Legendpromo.wmv

[rkjunior303]

Why do people always assume that different = bad?

There is nothing wrong with having a sear in a system, it's presence just makes it different from the typical AFSR electro.

Everyone needs to chill out and stash the roll-eyes guy for a while.

You're all getting to be like those hypersensitive protester chick cliche's that everyone expects to see at college. You totally flip out at anything you think even hints at bad vibes towards the mag, and honestly, it's begining to grate.

Don't be that girl.

jeez, can't a guy be sarcastic on the internet? :) i know there's nothing wrong with it! lol

[cyrus-the-virus]

Does happen, but when I maxed out my egg2 with full batteries and full speed 28bps feed rate, I could walk the trigger about 18-20 bps. I had my spyder electra acs 05 w/ rocking trigger. It has two respawn points and anyone can walk it. It is so easy. And faster than a DMC in my opinion.

I want to see a video of you shooting 18-20 BPS, even with two swiches in your gun it's pretty damned hard to get above 15 BPS. Also it would be awsome if you did the video over a chrono...

Don can you show me pictures of your DMC and spyder electra? PM'em to me cus you seem to have quite a gun whore collection.

hell if you can show me ligit pictures of your DMC I'll buy it.

[MarkM]

Does happen, but when I maxed out my egg2 with full batteries and full speed 28bps feed rate, I could walk the trigger about 18-20 bps. I had my spyder electra acs 05 w/ rocking trigger. It has two respawn points and anyone can walk it. It is so easy. And faster than a DMC in my opinion.

I too want to see the video for that especially seeing how the egg maxes out at 18 on a good day. I have one with the alledged super duper X board and I used it for one game and I went straight back to my (at the time) stock Halo. As I couldn't deal with skipped shots and I know my marker wasn't firing past 15bps so the egg was under performing if the hype figues were to be believed.

[thefool]

hmm two respawn points. That doesnt really make a difference does it? I mean its still a shot per trigger pull.

:P