Carbon Fiber and a mag...(design discussion)

[gus13]

I was wondering if it would be possible (or applicable) to actually cut out parts of a ULE mainbody and replace it with carbon fiber? Obviously I wouldn't be doing this at home but if say deadlywind were to make this how would they go about it? I'm looking for wieght reduction in my mag and I figured if they make a carbon fiber foregrip and they make carbon fiber ION bodies (which I find ugly myself) why not make a carbon fiber mainbody for the Mag?
Would be interested in anyone's input on this subject and maybe come up with a viable design for this product!!

[Hexis]

From what I understand the ION bodies are just covers over the functional body underneeth. They are not like a ULE body that actually interacts with the components within. CF is not some magic material that can replace everything and just make everything lighter.

[Skoad]

depending on where your cutting out of the ULE body(and how much aka very little), should work fine. However if your looking for weight reduction doing something like that probably wouldn't be my first idea - especially at the cost. Theres a global shortage of carbon fiber material and it's pretty darn expensive right now - and the ULE aluminum is most likely a fractional difference in weight.

[SR_matt]

well a guy i know of is talking of making a rail out of a non metal (not going into more details due to its his idea and i forget some details) but the rail is the mail spot that you can drop a lot of weight from (heck the alpga rails can lose metal on them and they are only 2.1 oz)

-matt

[gus13]

well I was thinking aolong the lines of putting carbon fiber in place of a majority of the actual mainbody, keep just enough of the ULE body for barrel threads, and feedneck..... basically the Carbon fiber foregrip by deadlywind only a body design. I think you'd also have to keep the ULE feedneck area.
Once again this is just a "what if?" I'm curious to see if it would actually work. because isn't Carbon Fiber lighter than Aluminium?

[Chronobreak]

well you cant use cf fore the threads, so that needs to be metal.

the feedneck wont holdup in Cf so thats not happening

the abck part past the retaining ring and front/back screws cant be CF....cause that liekly wont hold, and the bolt would shatter the CF..

so what exactkly where you plan on using cf for

rpg has some lighter than ule bodies, something to look into..
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[thefool]

well you could always machine down the ule body a little bit more and then wrap it with cf

[don miguel]

I was wondering if it would be possible (or applicable) to actually cut out parts of a ULE mainbody and replace it with carbon fiber? Obviously I wouldn't be doing this at home but if say deadlywind were to make this how would they go about it? I'm looking for wieght reduction in my mag and I figured if they make a carbon fiber foregrip and they make carbon fiber ION bodies (which I find ugly myself) why not make a carbon fiber mainbody for the Mag?
Would be interested in anyone's input on this subject and maybe come up with a viable design for this product!!

THANK YOU!!!!! that was my idea but nobody thought it would freakin work! I thought it would be cool to have a CF ULE. totally!

[Triangle]

THANK YOU!!!!! that was my idea but nobody thought it would freakin work! I thought it would be cool to have a CF ULE. totally!

This was not your idea, and it has been discussed before.
What was it you said?
Use the search button.

[Toll]

If you wanted a lighter mag take some meat out of the frame and rail, the body you aren't going to get much from.


Carbonfiber is a horrible idea to use on functional parts of the marker outside of the barrel as it doesnt particularly like friction from metal objects.

[don miguel]

"Back to the point, does anyone think a full CF gun would be cool as a concept. How about a complete carbon fiber mag. It could have a carbon fiber shelled xvalve, carbonfiber emag lowers, a carbon fiber ule bodykit, and obviously a carbon fiber barell. Can anyone with photoshop make a pic of one for show, Idont have photoshop. THE GUN WOULD BE SWEET AND LIGHT. Hey Mr.Kaye do you think it could work? if you could respond that would be good" look in the "PROTO RAIL " thread. I posted this Idea there. Everyone ripped on me because they thought it was stupid. I think it would be cool.

[SR_matt]

don go back and read a little closer when people were listing the parts taht woudl and wouldnt work, the slaming of the bolt against the body if it was CF wouldnt hold up probably, the feedneck and threads wouldnt hold up well if it was CF. and if u just put CF on the out side of the X valve all you do is add weight.

-matt

[don miguel]

don go back and read a little closer when people were listing the parts taht woudl and wouldnt work, the slaming of the bolt against the body if it was CF wouldnt hold up probably, the feedneck and threads wouldnt hold up well if it was CF. and if u just put CF on the out side of the X valve all you do is add weight.

-matt

I think you could modify it where you have the internal body where the bolt is held aluminum a thinner sheet of it, and a deleron bolt. And then even a metal feedneck and threads, also metal barell threads. This is all just concepts. Nobody's talking about really making one yet. It is hard to explain in text so I can;t really show you what Im talking about.

[UnderCurrent]

I don't know a whole lot about carbon fiber myself, but it sounds like from what everyone else is saying that it would still have the same problems of not being able withstand the force of the gun firing, even if the bolt wasn't metal.

[gus13]

actually I was thinking more of a "rib" design. the bottom of the body would be Aluminium as well as the thread in for the barrel, the feedneck and the very back would all be aluminium as well, the only areas I was thinking of for cf was between the barrel and feedneck, then possibly btween the feedneck and valve. so in all actuality it would only have cf in two spots, and not even the full diameter would be CF just the exposed halves.