best electric paintball gun that uses CO2?

[Virem]

Well, I guess I had my answer after the first reply... because EVO is what I was thinking. Didn't mean to have a co2 vs HPA argument

I guess the questions should of been best Stock gun to run on Co2

[warbeak2099]

Well, I guess I had my answer after the first reply... because EVO is what I was thinking. Didn't mean to have a co2 vs HPA argument

I guess the questions should of been best Stock gun to run on Co2

Yea, for a beginner electro, the EVO is perfect. It's cheap, decent performance, eyes, easy to maintain, and parts are widely available. The Spyder VS is probably a great gun too, but it's $250. For $50 less you could have an Ion which is just plain better than any Spyder. Why not get an Ion to begin with? It requires a little more knowledge to take care of than a simple Spyder clone. It is also an electro-pneumatic and as I and others have said, not easy to use with Co2. Oh sure it's possible, but you'd really have to take a lot of precautions and set it up correctly. With an EVO, just screw your tank in and go.

[Pneumagger]

Ryan, If I get the "correct setup" for a viking, can I rip as hard as I want with Co2?

I'm guessing that a palmers bottom female and antisyphon would be sufficient? Plus, with the pressure compensating Sidewinder, the co2 fluctuation wouldn't hurt at all.

[CoolHand]

Ryan, If I get the "correct setup" for a viking, can I rip as hard as I want with Co2?

I'm guessing that a palmers bottom female and antisyphon would be sufficient? Plus, with the pressure compensating Sidewinder, the co2 fluctuation wouldn't hurt at all.

That's what I'm saying.

You'll freeze the tank to your shoulder, but it'll keep going.

Try to do that for 20 mins and it'll freeze the tank solid, but for a speedball game with the amount of paint you can carry, you'll be fine.

[Shane-O-Mac]

Yea, for a beginner electro, the EVO is perfect. It's cheap, decent performance, eyes, easy to maintain, and parts are widely available. The Spyder VS is probably a great gun too, but it's $250. For $50 less you could have an Ion which is just plain better than any Spyder. Why not get an Ion to begin with? It requires a little more knowledge to take care of than a simple Spyder clone. It is also an electro-pneumatic and as I and others have said, not easy to use with Co2. Oh sure it's possible, but you'd really have to take a lot of precautions and set it up correctly. With an EVO, just screw your tank in and go.

I agree to a point. Spyders are good guns for beginners or for easy Co2 use. But an Ion will work fine with an Anti-siphon tank. No other precatuions needed. The 'noid on an Ion is different than the standard, and more tolerant of Co2. I would reccomend the Ion, its cheap and more of a "Mid-level" gun than a spyder. Just have someone that knows what they are doing, show you how to maintain it. There is a few things to watch out for. But if your patient and go slow, they aren't hard to take care of.

Shane-O

[CrimsonGhost]

If you plan on running C02 threw any SP marker, I hope you have tones of extra noides on hand...

Spyder, you'll get 12 bps from it and they're cheap and easy, just like my ex...

Save for the Shoeboxes....Just need to stay up on the lube and orings.

[GT]

Ryan, If I get the "correct setup" for a viking, can I rip as hard as I want with Co2?

I'm guessing that a palmers bottom female and antisyphon would be sufficient? Plus, with the pressure compensating Sidewinder, the co2 fluctuation wouldn't hurt at all.

No problem for viks. Check your owners manual I believe they cover the neccesary parts for a co2 setup.

[electriceel125]

Save for the Shoeboxes....Just need to stay up on the lube and orings.

I never had problems with impulses and C02.

A great thing for c02 is a remote. It is hard to suck liquid vertical like that. And of course a palmers reg.

[Toll]

Just curious would a cocker set up with :

Aka Sidewinder
Palmers female
Decent LPR


Would run fine on an anti-siphoned co2?

At the moment I'm still kicking myself over a very stupid thing I did and as such I now have a project cocker...Halfblocking with ensue but I think that the co2 conversion would be neat ...mainly to see people's faces of horror when you screw a co2 tank into a "good" marker.

The problem is the fact that it's just flat out very expensive to try to get the female stab as well as the AKA reg...Much more expensive infact than a decent tank (talking 175 if they're new)

[Oregon_pb_]

the antisiphon tank alone(with some sort of reg) should work great on a cocker. If you go with palmers then that of course will only add to a already good setup.


Try runnning with the antisiphon first maybe, if the siphon tube is set at the right angle then you won't be getting any liquid. With a sidewinder the input will be set to whatever you run at, this should work without issue.

Mags are more sensitive to liquid Co2 and they can run fine on the above set up.


As far as turning kiddies heads at the paintball field, thats always fun considering most have never associated Co2 with paintball, they've only been playing in the HP era.

Just curious would a cocker set up with :

Aka Sidewinder
Palmers female
Decent LPR


Would run fine on an anti-siphoned co2?

At the moment I'm still kicking myself over a very stupid thing I did and as such I now have a project cocker...Halfblocking with ensue but I think that the co2 conversion would be neat ...mainly to see people's faces of horror when you screw a co2 tank into a "good" marker.

The problem is the fact that it's just flat out very expensive to try to get the female stab as well as the AKA reg...Much more expensive infact than a decent tank (talking 175 if they're new)

[warbeak2099]

Yea double regging it with a Stabilizer and a Sidewinder would be exactly what you need to do for Co2.

[RoLLonBombs]

if i was your friend id go for a mech gun first and with xtra cash buy n2 tank then jsut upgrade gun later after aquiring some skills and have the air system for which ever gun he chooses

i rented for prob 6 months b4 i bought a gun and it was my mag no need for another hell its a sick gun and all i d was put xvalve recently and a dye 45 back in the day when i got the gun like 7 years ago

[Snap Shooter]

....Impulse with old school max flow

[Aslan]

CO2 and Such

Everyone these days freaks out about co2 and Electros. With a proper set-up, you can use Co2 on ANY Electro, most difficult would be an emag, but that has nothing to do with the solenoid, its because of the valve.

The issue as I see it is, Too many people that DONT really know about Co2 and its use, tell other undeducated people that they shouldnt. The Blind leading the blind................

As Manike used to say......."Dont believe the hype!!!"

Shane-O

Valid points...and correct. But...the bottom line is many people use CO2, DON'T do it right, and have problems. If I had no choice but to use CO2, I'd mount the tank vertically in a harness (on my back) then run a remote to a 6-stage expansion chamber. Would it keep the liquid CO2 out of the gun? Probably yes. Would I waste the money that set-up, or antisyphon, or more expensive stabilizers/regs when you can get a cheap 47/3000 air tank for $75? Probably not. But some people have to...they play in the woods, far from civilization, or just bought a CO2 filling station or something. So, I understand. I have multiple markers...some for air...some for when "air runs out" and I'm playing outback. Use the Mag...air runs out...switch to the Spyder.

Paint runs out...switch to the pump...
Patience runs out...go home...

[scion]

I have a question kind of on topic with the discussion... What is the point of the old 68 ci fiberwrapped tanks that can hold co2? Obviously they are lighter than a 20 oz while still holding a bit more co2 but that hardly seems worth the price. They cost like a normal hpa tank (around $150) versus a $15 20oz co2 tank...