Manike on PigTV about the MINI

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  • st6212
    Registered User
    • May 2001
    • 470

    #46
    Originally posted by Nate129
    From what I have heard, you can use either - but a LP tank will work better. The Mini does have a reg, so a HP tank will work.

    Rumors are around 1,500 shots from a 68/45.
    What I'd like to know is how does it work better. The Mini has a reg so psi through the gun isn't dictated by the type of tank you use, HP or LP.

    So is the result just more shots per fill from a LP tank as opposed to HP?

    Never really understood (not bothered) to understand how LP tanks work/help, when all LP markers have a reg to do the job anyway. Been using a mag always so was never concerned about it, but this will be my first LP marker when it arrives.

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    • Beemer
      I could tell you but then.

      • Oct 2003
      • 3250

      #47
      You can make it light and small or big and heavy no matter to me if it is REALLY consistent cause you know what that equals. Whats extremely consistent? In other words whats the FPS on every ball at 15BPS?

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      • manike
        INCEPTIONDESIGNS.COM

        • Jan 2001
        • 3820

        #48
        Originally posted by K9nerOPs
        Sorry for kinda going off topic but I Can't seem to find this data anywhere...

        I'm In the market for a new tank for my new Invert Mini...I would like a Stubby tank (wanna keep this marker small over all)...

        Do I buy A High Pressure (750psi) Or Low Pressure (450psi) Nitro tank...can I use either One? If not why?

        Many Thanks In Advanced!!!
        You could use either, but I reccomend using a low pressure tank.
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        • K9nerOPs
          AKA: SyntaxSinner
          • Sep 2006
          • 261

          #49
          Originally posted by manike
          You could use either, but I reccomend using a low pressure tank.
          Mankie if you don't mind me asking but why would you reccomend the LP tank?

          Many Thanks In Advanced!!!

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          • DiRTyBuNNy
            Registered User
            • Sep 2001
            • 4854

            #50
            Originally posted by K9nerOPs
            Mankie if you don't mind me asking but why would you reccomend the LP tank?

            Many Thanks In Advanced!!!
            how about you take a guess at why?

            --Mr. DB
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            • K9nerOPs
              AKA: SyntaxSinner
              • Sep 2006
              • 261

              #51
              Originally posted by DiRTyBuNNy
              how about you take a guess at why?

              --Mr. DB

              DB,
              Why would you waste time on a reply like that? It's pointless and a waste of thread space. If you know the answer then please fill me in...I don't have time for guessing games...I want to make a purchase and want to know the reason why a LP tank was recommended that's it...

              Sheez, people now or days!!!

              If Manike cannot answer the reason why I'm sure he can explain why he cannot...

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              • Muzikman
                Everything AGD
                • Dec 2000
                • 6229

                #52
                The simple answer. The gun runs on low pressure, because of that you would want a low pressure tank. You really don't need much more explanation unless you want to know the difference between high and low pressure.

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                • DiRTyBuNNy
                  Registered User
                  • Sep 2001
                  • 4854

                  #53
                  Originally posted by Muzikman
                  The simple answer. The gun runs on low pressure, because of that you would want a low pressure tank. You really don't need much more explanation unless you want to know the difference between high and low pressure.
                  Bingo. And nice to see you again, Muzik...it's been a long time...

                  --Mr. DB
                  Dirty Clothes for Dirty Ballers!

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                  • st6212
                    Registered User
                    • May 2001
                    • 470

                    #54
                    Originally posted by Muzikman
                    The simple answer. The gun runs on low pressure, because of that you would want a low pressure tank. You really don't need much more explanation unless you want to know the difference between high and low pressure.
                    I believe what K9erOPs is trying to find out, which is the same questions I posed a few posts up but did not get a definitive answer, is what the advantage of using a LP tank with an LP marker is as opposed to a HP tank.

                    Yes, it's easy to say lp guns, use lp tanks. But all lp guns already have a reg that take the input pressure (low or high) and regulate it to lp needed for the gun to operate. So that would eliminate the gun from the equation, it would not matter what tank you use as the gun still operates under normal regulated conditions.

                    K9erOPs: Since noone has given a reason, this is my guess - using a hp tank will work fine, but because your regulating hp down to lp, that excess pressure is wasted everytime you pull the trigger. You'll get less shots out of your tank. Using a lp tank makes more efficient use and get more shots per fill.

                    Please correct me if I'm wrong and explain why/what the correct answer is.
                    Last edited by st6212; 11-21-2006, 11:01 AM.

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                    • Muzikman
                      Everything AGD
                      • Dec 2000
                      • 6229

                      #55

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                      • K9nerOPs
                        AKA: SyntaxSinner
                        • Sep 2006
                        • 261

                        #56
                        Muzikman,

                        That was the info I wanted to know, it was perfect...I understand why LP would be recommended...Thanks!!!

                        Now I have to decide which of the tree lp tanks to get:

                        DYE Stubby
                        Crossfire Stubby
                        CustomProducts Stubby

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                        • manike
                          INCEPTIONDESIGNS.COM

                          • Jan 2001
                          • 3820

                          #57
                          From that list get the Crossfire... although I haven't tested a CP yet.

                          When you regulate gas you lose energy. The least number of stages the better.

                          The mini runs on 200psi MAX, and as Musik points out, you don't want/need more than a 200psi differential.
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                          • rkjunior303
                            I need this more than you
                            • May 2003
                            • 4029

                            #58
                            Originally posted by manike
                            From that list get the Crossfire... although I haven't tested a CP yet.

                            When you regulate gas you lose energy. The least number of stages the better.

                            The mini runs on 200psi MAX, and as Musik points out, you don't want/need more than a 200psi differential.
                            agreed. crossfire has some of the best flow rates in the industry. the dye tanks have had horrible recharge rates in the past.

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                            • K9nerOPs
                              AKA: SyntaxSinner
                              • Sep 2006
                              • 261

                              #59
                              Yeah I was gearing toward the crossfire as well...

                              thanks fellas!!! going shopping for a Crossfire Stubby...any recommendations on where to buy? (Sheez now I'm asking for too much!!!)

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                              • Beemer
                                I could tell you but then.

                                • Oct 2003
                                • 3250

                                #60
                                Originally posted by Muzikman
                                The thing you are looking for is consistency. The more consistent the air flow is, the more consistent the gun will be, there for more accurate.
                                Guess quality regs will make a difference to. So let me ask again. With the best set up how consistent is this gun Really at 15BPS.

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