G-Force to release pneumatic frames for the Mags

[Andrew Cunje]

while you could do that....i would just hold out for it...

the reasone he "just finsihed his design" is that he has remade the lpr 5+times over....previous versions couldnt keep good consistancy and the pressures he desired...

[Dirge]

you and anyone else is still entitled to a refund for anything you have yet to recieve

theres plenty of evidence that he lied about progress, he said the lprs were basicly desighned when we bought in, only to find out when we recieved our frames he was still testing to get the pressure down to what he claimed he had already achieved.


he also broke the contractual agreement when he failed ot ship on the date given on the invoice, if u want your $ back all you gotta do is call and let him know he broke the agreement and you want your refund.

Thanks for the constructive reply.

So why then the drama of not being to get refunds?

Yet another reason to not communicate (a craptastic one at that though).

[Smoothice]

you and anyone else is still entitled to a refund for anything you have yet to recieve.


he also broke the contractual agreement when he failed ot ship on the date given on the invoice, if u want your $ back all you gotta do is call and let him know he broke the agreement and you want your refund.

Why don't you tell Garf that?

Cause when I asked for a refund on my frame 3-4 months prior to them finally shipping I was told no.

When I mentioned that these were way past the time frame given I was told to sell my spot in line.

So what you say may be legally true. But without getting a lawyer involved my answer was no refund.

[Chronobreak]

Why don't you tell Garf that?

Cause when I asked for a refund on my frame 3-4 months prior to them finally shipping I was told no.

When I mentioned that these were way past the time frame given I was told to sell my spot in line.

So what you say may be legally true. But without getting a lawyer involved my answer was no refund.

well a week after i personaly told him that i got a shipping ntoice, than a framea bout 8-10 days after so 7-15 days after i asked for a product or refund and made sure garf knew he had broken the contract (price, timeframe, description) that we had agreed on.

im not into garf or gforce for anything else, however i have registered with cockerforums

http://customcockers.com/forum/

and will be sure to let them know my personal views on the company and what i and others went thru witha link ot this thread.

i just skimeed the first few pages and they seem as naive and excited as some of us once were so i want to elt them know what they are POSSIBLY in for

-chrono out-

ps if that diddnt make alot of sence i got a bad cold and am kinda autopilot on nyquil

[Beemer]

I do have posts elsewhere in this thread and I also did purchase the full package as well, so I will "troll"all I want, thankyou.

Well no, no you wont. Thank you. If thats what you will do please go elsewhere.
Trolls dont get along with Mods.

I will say the squeaky wheel gets the grease and I will put my money on CoolHand over Garf ANY day. Everything went south with that project but it is still alive and EVERYONE is INFORMED and kept up to date..

Thats a class act Garf needs schooling in.

[UThomas]

and will be sure to let them know my personal views on the company and what i and others went thru witha link ot this thread.

CustomCockers and it's mods are all well aware of what has happened with this project and GForce. We don't need to be kept up to date.

Thomas (custom cockers mod and 1 of 12 outstanding)

[Chronobreak]

and will be sure to let them know my personal views on the company and what i and others went thru witha link ot this thread.

CustomCockers and it's mods are all well aware of what has happened with this project and GForce. We don't need to be kept up to date.

Thomas (custom cockers mod and 1 of 12 outstanding)

that sounds kinda unfair? as i said i diddnt view the entire thread so as well as havent posted until i do, sure the mods know, expecialy if like you they visit AO, however it should be made clear that all customers are aware of this product histroy, unles custom cockers is producing this with an agreement with gforce.

heck there was a time(not long ago) garf himself said he would enver make these for cockers there just wasnt any interest

[UThomas]

that sounds kinda unfair? as i said i diddnt view the entire thread so as well as havent posted until i do, sure the mods know, expecialy if like you they visit AO, however it should be made clear that all customers are aware of this product histroy, unles custom cockers is producing this with an agreement with gforce.

heck there was a time(not long ago) garf himself said he would enver make these for cockers there just wasnt any interest

I can appreciate your point of view - however we will moderate customcockers and our relationships with our forum sponsors. The CC mods have already discussed this internally weeks ago when it was brought to our attention and what I wouldn't appreciate is people being directed over to our forums from this thread to flame GForce when among other things Garf has made it clear that he isn't starting new project until this is done (which apparently is scheduled for EO Jan 09 right now).

[Chronobreak]

well i trust the mods have made the right decision, jsut remember that he is not a paintball op and just because he wont start any other project doesnt mean the machines wont be tied up for other more important things, which was the problem that we had.

garf "i cant just stop all the machines, retool them and finish the frames, it would cost me too much $"

il let the subject die but il be following the project closely on cockerforums

[warbeak2099]

Mommy, why did daddy hit you?

[ezcreation]

Got my frame today from someone in the forum and I really enjoy it. Yes the grips are cheap but the internal look awesome. I wish the part joint to the sear had 2 holes tapped so we could tighten the sear in that way.

Anyone knows if we can get parts? Not talking LPR or other drama, just actual parts.

[jade_monkey07]

apparently all the orings are off the shelf and easy to get. the sear extender im sure could be reproduced if need be. good luck getting ahold of garf to ask him.

[TwilightG]

Anyone knows if we can get parts? Not talking LPR or other drama, just actual parts.

Not quite the parts that you may be looking for, but there is some aftermarket support:

Custom Grip Panels
Internal LPR Mod

Aside from the MSV-1 and a couple of o-rings for an internal LPR, the rest is proprietary. The ram, sear extender, and trigger are all G-Force and I doubt there are any spares laying around. In theory, we shouldn't need to replace these parts but I mostly wonder about the lifespan of the sear extender.

[Pneumagger]

I recall seeing those square actuators somewhere in the past, but cannot remember the name or other stuff.
The square actuator was posted in one of the phishphen pneumag threads as part of an improvement brainstorming thing, I believe.
For all I know, this may be an entirely different custom actuator than what was posted years ago.

[ezcreation]

apparently all the orings are off the shelf and easy to get. the sear extender im sure could be reproduced if need be. good luck getting ahold of garf to ask him.

Well I have emailed him and got a reply. I can understand the frustrations of the waiting but so far I have a great product in my hand and a very good customer service. I did want to get another sear extender jut to be preventive.