G-Force to release pneumatic frames for the Mags

[warbeak2099]

Yea he's been offering services, specifically EGO feedneck conversions.

[Looper]

Yea he's been offering services, specifically EGO feedneck conversions.

I just saw that and just asked if he would like to take on an LPR project of mine with details pointing back to this thread...

Anyone else that would like to communicate with Garf over at http://customcockers.com his handle is mission88 and he last posed today a 7pm... I guess his old customers are no longer of any use to him.

I figure I will either get banned, my post will get deleted or I'll be ignored... But I do feel better.

[Smoothice]

I just saw that and just asked if he would like to take on an LPR project of mine with details pointing back to this thread...

Anyone else that would like to communicate with Garf over at http://customcockers.com his handle is mission88 and he last posed today a 7pm... I guess his old customers are no longer of any use to him.

I figure I will either get banned, my post will get deleted or I'll be ignored... But I do feel better.

As we have seen from past experience. That is the only way to get his attention.

He has time to take on new paintball work but not enough time to finish these lpr's

[WickedKlown2]

If you want a refund you better get a lawyer on retainer... Garf stated up front no refunds so we are at his mercy unless we want to start playing hard ball. Has anyone been over to the Cocker forum to see if he is doing any work over there... That would not be cool...

I can always go to the JAG Office on Post and see what they can do about this matter... Plus I know what Garf stated but he has also broken the contractual agreement one to many times... Last time I checked the Customer is always Right and I feel wronged for having to wait a Year and a Half for a product I was promised over a year ago... I have been very patient up until this point and enough is enough,,, how much more waiting does one have to endure ??? I am not trying to start a flame fest but this is ridiculous...

WK2

[G-Force Tech]

Micro-LPRs

Looper,

Do you think spaming me on CC gets your LPR done faster???

I am not doing any AC production projects on CC until your Micro-LPRs are delivered. A EGO feedneck mod is a mod not prototyping or production work like the LPRs.


Folks,

You all treat Pnuemager as a hero for his $30 adaptor which should be $2.

If you continue to use a Tickler, eventually you will break the sear extender.

I have done testing on the Tickler a long time ago and found it to be unsatifactory and knew the only way to do it right for our frames is to custom build a low pressure high volume Micro-LPR. The Micro-LPR will give you a much lighter trigger pull as well. Somehow the demand for it wasn't there because everyone thought a Tickler would do the job and most have gone external. Even external, I wouldn't use the Tickler either.

I am sorry for missing the promised dates, but the pre-production Micro-LPRs still have bugs and perfomance issues. I believe this frame deserves better, but you would rather have the LPRs delivered as is?

Garf

[UThomas]

Guys - I've already stated this - but we aren't going to tolerate AO users coming over to customcockers from this thread and spamming forums sponsors (or anybody for that matter). If you do your posts will be deleted and if you persist you will be banned. As one of the mods and one of the dozen looking forward to getting an internal LPR for my frame, I get it. Trust me. And in the mean time I can play using an external LPR like the 80+ other frame customers.

[Beemer]

Ya ok. I am a Mod here. How bout I just Ban Garf here and make it official.

It is plain to me he could give a crap about his account or all of you by his actions.

That is what happens to bad Traders and Dealers that mess it up.

Lets see THIS thread is 2.5 years old.

His LAST post before today was 6 months ago.

Just for the record, copy paste of his reply over there.



"Looper,

Are you trying to spam me here?

The EGO feedneck mods are just mods not production work. Any AC upgrades production work is on hold until the Mag project is completed.

Your project for the LPR is not a simple mod to a Tickler that you folks have been adapting like Pneumagger have talked you into for $30. If you want an adaptor to use a Tickler, anyone can do it for $2.

If you continue to use a Tickler, you will eventually break the sear extender.

Our pneu Mag frames were tested with the Ticklers and was found unsatisfactory. That is one of the reasons we decided to design and make a dedicated low pressure high volume Micro-LPR for these frames. The pre-production Micro-LPR still show bugs so it has been delayed. The production run for these Micro-LPR is such a rediculous low quantity since you folks have convinced me to produce.

Garf





Quote:
Originally Posted by Looper
Garf, you taking on new work....? I have and LPR project I would like you to look at. The details are here. http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=219595

Thanks

Any AC upgrades production work is on hold until the Mag project is completed.

Cough, cough, I call BS. I looked around over there a little and it dont look that way to me.......

You can call me at 905-477-1338 during business hours or PM is fine.

[Dend78]

How bout I just Ban Garf here and make it official.

i would say no not right yet, not while some here are still waiting on there items. once everyone has there stuff go for it cause i dont believe anyone here will be buying from him anytime soon again anyway. just my thoughts do as you wish though you got the stick

[Beemer]

And in the mean time I can play using an external LPR like the 80+ other frame customers.

Which one would that be???

If you continue to use a Tickler, you will eventually break the sear extender

[BigEvil]

I have stayed out of this thread but watched it as an interested party since the beginning.


I have to stick my nose in this right now, and I call SHENS on Garf;

If you continue to use a Tickler, you will eventually break the sear extender.

Our pneu Mag frames were tested with the Ticklers and was found unsatisfactory. That is one of the reasons we decided to design and make a dedicated low pressure high volume Micro-LPR for these frames. The pre-production Micro-LPR still show bugs so it has been delayed. The production run for these Micro-LPR is such a rediculous low quantity since you folks have convinced me to produce.

Garf

IF other LPRs are unsatisfactory and cause damage to his product, WHY was it released without the proper components?

Am I missing something here? Micro Rocks and Ticklers can be set down to almost 0 psi cant they?

I am truly sorry for you guys that got sucked into this.

Beemer, I think banning Garf would be counterproductive. If gets a ban he has an automatic excuse about why he isnt moving on completing this.


I hope the people at Custom Cockers are paying attention.

Now back to lurking.

[G-Force Tech]

Ban Me!

Beemer,

Go ahead and ban me!

Pneumagger, cyberdave,etc and others that have been selling DIY pneu kits and doing conversions have made lot of $$$$$$$$ for years that are covered in our patents and at the same time should be paying AO to be a selling vendor.

I stepped up to the plate and delivered a pneu frame from the ground up instead of stuffing parts into a stock frame. Our frames outperforms any DIY frame or conversions out there. I guess the only way for you to match it, is to copy it now.

And no, I have not released any new production projects on CC. Don't compare feedneck mods to manufacturing production work.

I have shared with several AO members that during the time I was working on the frames, that I came up with a modification to allow the Mag to shoot deeper into the tank. The protoype had an operating pressure of just under 300psi using the level10, but it was inconsistent and needs more refinement. Another prototype was made running sub 250psi and the level10 is no longer required. I can still get it lower. Since there is so much hate for me, this project is now in the closet forever since no one wants LP. So Pneumagger, Cyberdave, etc. show the AO folks you can do this LP mod and be a real hero, that's if you know how to do it.

Garf

[Mongoose]

Beemer,

Go ahead and ban me!

Pneumagger, cyberdave,etc and others that have been selling DIY pneu kits and doing conversions have made lot of $$$$$$$$ for years that are covered in our patents and at the same time should be paying AO to be a selling vendor.

I stepped up to the plate and delivered a pneu frame from the ground up instead of stuffing parts into a stock frame. Our frames outperforms any DIY frame or conversions out there. I guess the only way for you to match it, is to copy it now.

And no, I have not released any new production projects on CC. Don't compare feedneck mods to manufacturing production work.

I have shared with several AO members that during the time I was working on the frames, that I came up with a modification to allow the Mag to shoot deeper into the tank. The protoype had an operating pressure of just under 300psi using the level10, but it was inconsistent and needs more refinement. Another prototype was made running sub 250psi and the level10 is no longer required. I can still get it lower. Since there is so much hate for me, this project is now in the closet forever since no one wants LP. So Pneumagger, Cyberdave, etc. show the AO folks you can do this LP mod and be a real hero, that's if you know how to do it.

Garf

LOL.....who is cyberdave????? :rofl:

i would love to compare any of my p-mags to your incomplete frame.

[G-Force Tech]

For your information, the frames work fine with external LPRs but not the Ticklers. Ticklers need to run at much higher pressures to perform at higher ROF. Don't challenge me on this topic. I have been around cockers since the beginning and our company specialized in cocker upgrades.

Garf

I have stayed out of this thread but watched it as an interested party since the beginning.


I have to stick my nose in this right now, and I call SHENS on Garf;




IF other LPRs are unsatisfactory and cause damage to his product, WHY was it released without the proper components?

Am I missing something here? Micro Rocks and Ticklers can be set down to almost 0 psi cant they?

I am truly sorry for you guys that got sucked into this.

Beemer, I think banning Garf would be counterproductive. If gets a ban he has an automatic excuse about why he isnt moving on completing this.


I hope the people at Custom Cockers are paying attention.

Now back to lurking.

[G-Force Tech]

"cyberave68" you know who I am talking about.


How is it incomplete???? only a handful has opted for the optional internal LPR. Are you saying the rest can not use their frames?

And your p mag is cover in a patent. So there is nothing to compare.

Garf

LOL.....who is cyberdave????? :rofl:

i would love to compare any of my p-mags to your incomplete frame.

[Smoothice]

How is it incomplete???? only a handful has opted for the optional internal LPR. Are you saying the rest can not use their frames?

And your p mag is cover in a patent. So there is nothing to compare.

Garf

Back with a vengance!!

Garf I would rather have you talking smack in this thread then never speaking up.

As far as feedneck mods having nothing to do with production...

It is still time spent on Paintball. If you don't have time to work on the lpr's how do you have time to mod a feedneck?