Mother of all drug busts???

[warpig13]

Being a former addict of various drugs and substances myself, I mostly agree with AirAssualt, but also with Muzikman.

The fact that anyone does drugs is the problem. But the way the United States handles the war on drugs creates a higher sence of "rush" while doing drugs. Hate to do it, but the way Amsterdam (and yes, I've been there) is arranged it allows havens for drug use where people can get their fix, but then go to work. I have seen countless interviews and had first hand conversations with people that Pot, however, said these havens allowed them to hold jobs and suport a family simply by being able to go by once a day and getting their needs taken care of.

HOWEVER, the fact that people have to view drugs as a need is completely and utterly sad. Hardcore drugsare the man focus here. They are highly addictive and usually hook people on their first try. A drug known as "cheese", a mixture of heroin and Tylenol(sp?) PM killed 26 teens in Dallas their first time using it!

Pot, however, could be legalized, taxed, and controlled and benefit the midwest. States like Iowa could crop it and maybe get some population back to the withered state. This will infact never happen, complete fantasy, but it would be nice....or cool.

Experiencing first hand the physical and emotion toll of more hardcore drugs, there is no need for drugs like heroin, crack, cocaine or meth to be around. Mushrooms, acid, and X also have no purpose....but I won't lie....it is quite an experience ....until a bad trip

[Muzikman]

I don't know any one that has died from drug use. The fact that they died while using drugs simply proves my point. It's not the drug but the people that do them. I have been a casual user of many different drugs at different times in my life. Yet was able to go to college, serve time in the military, and hold a job without robbing the local 7-11 to get my next "fix". Responsible use of any drug (cigs, alcohol, meth, cocaine, mary J, and so forth) in no way keeps the user from living a productive life. I don't see how legalizing a drug will cause the price to go up significantly. If anything take away the criminal aspect and it is most likely going to lower the cost. What happened when the 18th amendment was put in effect? Then the 21st? There is your model right there.

No, it has nothing to do with the people, it's the drugs. They would be alive today if it wasn't for them. Heroin can kill you the first time you use it. Has nothing to do with the person and if you think so you are ignorant. Just because you smoked a little pot, popped a few pills and came out alive doesn't make you any better of a person than they were.

Your words and thoughts are those of an immature person.

[maxama10]

[AirAssault]

No, it has nothing to do with the people, it's the drugs. They would be alive today if it wasn't for them. Heroin can kill you the first time you use it. Has nothing to do with the person and if you think so you are ignorant. Just because you smoked a little pot, popped a few pills and came out alive doesn't make you any better of a person than they were.

Your words and thoughts are those of an immature person.

Well opinions are like a certain part of the body, every one has one and they all stink.

So how many people have used the drug and NOT died the first time? You can drink to much and die too. So the fact that a person decides to shoot heroin and OD's is not the drugs fault. The person USED the drug, the drug didn't just jump up and enter their body. Yeah, the PERSON did it, not the drug.

[AirAssault]

mmmmmkay

[Lohman446]

Again, it is not the drugs fault someone can't handle it, do it without being out of control and so forth. Alcohol causes WAY more issues than any other drug and for some reason I can still go buy that. I have never done heroin or PCP and making it legal will not "make" me want to do it. I have had the chance many many times to do both, but really had no desire. Those inclined to do drugs will do them, those that are not wont, simple fact. You may get a small part of the population that will try it if it is legalized, but not very many IMHO.

You don't honestly beleive the affects and issues of meth (for instance) are less than that of alchohol do you?

Keep your argument away from effects. For instance - I don't beleive the federal government has the authority or right to regulate drugs ACCEPT when they directly cross state lines. As such I beleive all federal drug laws should be found unconstiutional based on the simple fact drug regulation is not one of the federal governments enumerated powers.

When your argument gets into "there not as dangerous as...." it becomes idiotic.

[warpig13]

You don't honestly beleive the affects and issues of meth (for instance) are less than that of alchohol do you?

100% true.

I speak to adults in local rehab centers about this stuff. Alcohol is no where near dangerous as any hardcore drug. People are too incapacitated from drugs to even drive, that's why you rarely hear about drug related driving deaths.

[Muzikman]

I personally do not know anyone who has died from drinking one beer. I do however know people who have died from one fix. If you serious want to make hardcore drugs legal and don't think there would be issues with it, you sir have a problem...and it very well might be a drug problem.

[Steelrat]

When are people going to realize, drugs are not the problem, people that do them are. Legalize it, tax it and let responsible people consume it in a responsible way. If you take away the criminal part of all drugs, the drug related crimes will drop like a stone. Other countries with either legal or relaxed laws regarding drugs do not have the same crime issues related to them as we do here in the US. The billions spent on the so called "war on drugs" is a joke. It wastes tax payer dollars that could be used on other needed projects.

You have no idea what you are talking about. Pot is one thing, but do you really think legalized meth, heroin, and crack is a good idea? If so, you must not deal with people who use it. I do, all the time, and the physical effects, as well as the addiction issues, make those people unable to function for long, or at all, in normal society.

Plus, you assume people will use it in a "responsible" way. How do you use it responsibly when there are issues with dependancy and addiction? Have you EVER met a "responsible" meth user? There is no such thing.

[PyRo]

I say we make all drugs legal. Their will however be no free or reduced cost health care for any ailment resulting from drug use. You go to a hospital with an overdose, you pay the bill, your assets are seized, or if you have no money or assets you either get thrown out on the street street with no treatment or sent to a labor camp until your medical bill is paid in full. Their will also be no government aid whatsoever for anyone found to be using drugs. No welfare, housing, soup kitchens, etc.

My taxes are high enough without paying for some broke junkies care (although the government supports plenty of them already).

[bornl33t]

My taxes are high enough without paying for some broke junkies care (although the government supports plenty of them already).

That's my point right there. I support drugs, I think that everyone should have the right to overdose and solve our over population problem. I think that our government is limiting the concept of survival of the fittest by supporting all the trash in this world who are not by any means entitled to welfare,...with my money none the less.

But that's exactly the reason drugs need to stay banned, because if it were legalized then my taxes would go up to cover the medical bills and well inability to support one self.

[MANN]

Didnt read much before this, but Im sure I know what it said

My stance is legalize everything

Drugs... Hey if people are stupid enought to use them surly they wont be stupid enought to get addictided, have crack babies, kill people while driving, abuse their spouses and kids.

Prostitution... Hey if someone wants to get paid to screw then who cares. Shortly we can rape anyone we want, and give them 20 bucks for their time.

Murder... Hey some people should just be killed IMO. Lets tax it so only the wealthy can afford to kill others. Heck it would be easier then helping them with healthcare.

Theft... Why should someone be able to horde all of the money. Share the wealth.

:dodgy:

Come on guys. Please tell me that you are smart enough to keep drugs from being legalized.

[MANN]

My taxes are high enough without paying for some broke junkies care (although the government supports plenty of them already).

Vote against Barak Osoma, John Whatever his last name is, and Bill Clinton in 08

[AirAssault]

Vote against Barak Osoma, John Whatever his last name is, and Bill Clinton in 08

Yeah because starting wars to put money in your buddies pockets is SUCH a better alternative. Where do you think the money to pay for it is gonna come from? You can't cut taxes and fight a feakin 177 MILLION a DAY war. Yeah, THAT'S gonna help America.

http://www.nationalpriorities.org/Cost-of-War/Cost-of-War-3.html

For all you freakin out, I never said legalizing drugs would make people stop overdosing and killing themselves on drugs. Guess what it is already happening NOW. I am saying taking the criminal element out of it will reduce the freakin crime associated with it.

[maxama10]

Jesus Christ you guys. Let's keep this on topic.