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  • ThePixelGuru
    Guru of Pixels
    • May 2005
    • 1461

    #1

    Ban Policy Manifesto

    Ban Policy Manifesto
    1. The official Forum Rules thread should be updated to reflect the policies that moderators will enforce.
    2. Moderators should make every attempt to abide by these policies, providing warnings and bans as dictated by the rules they set.
    3. In cases where a user breaks a rule which is not stated in the rules thread, the user should be warned and the rule added to the rules thread, except in cases of serious offenses where the user must be removed for the good of the community (though the rule should still be added immediately).

    EDIT: Manifesto ends after line 3. The following is just my commentary.
    I am not opposed to moderation, and at times I even feel it should be stricter - I just dislike the uneven application of the rules and the application of rules which are never stated, and I feel I am not alone. I understand that AO is a family-oriented, work-safe board officially operated by a company, and that certain topics are not appropriate here. I also understand that the moderators don't have all the time in the world to dedicate to this, and that they are only human. Perhaps additional moderators or a more organized system of warnings and bans could be added, but clearly the actual implementation of the rules is the responsibility and right of the moderators. Finally, I understand that this poll is in no way binding for the moderators, and that this is not a democracy; I simply want to determine if I am alone in believing this, and hopefully send a message to the moderators that we aren't merely a vocal minority.

    Please don't debate specific instances of bans here. This is about the ban policies and rules in general, not any specific user or incident. EDIT: Please try not to bring discussion from the other thread into this one; I'd rather this thread remain about the ban policy and rules and not get all the other tangents and incident-specific issues dragged into it.

    Moderators, I understand that you are trying to keep this issue confined to a single thread, but I feel this thread has the potential to offer insights and discussion that the other does not. I assure you my intent here is not to be disruptive, but merely to provide a way to gauge the opinions of users about ban policies and forum rules.
    47
    Yes, I agree with the Manifesto.
    0%
    22
    Yes, I agree with the intent of the Manifesto but not the wording and/or statement.
    0%
    1
    I couldn't care less; the rules and moderators don't concern me.
    0%
    14
    No, I disagree with the Manifesto but feel some other change is needed.
    0%
    2
    No, I disagree with the Manifesto.
    0%
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  • rawbutter
    Registered User
    • Feb 2007
    • 1463

    #2
    I do agree with your three main points.

    I'm a school teacher, and I know very well the need for clear rules and fair, consistent punishments when rules are broken. You don't know how many times I've given detention to a kid for tadies, and then he says, "But my other teachers don't care!"

    If it's in the rules, it should be followed, and moderators need to be consistent when they enforce the rules. That way, when a user breaks the rules, he doesn't have any option to appeal. If it's not in the rules, it should be added.

    I should mention that for #3, if a member does something wrong that's not in the rules, the warning should be public. Not as a "we need to embarass this person for what they've done" kinda thing, but as a "we need to let everyone else know that this is wrong" kinda thing. If member A does something wrong and only receives a private warning, and member B doesn't see this, then member B will think that it's okay to do what member A did.

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    • DevilMan
      FeedBack is at my HomePage
      • Aug 2004
      • 2479

      #3
      Good point butter.... and a direct reflection on the "argument" that was brought up to me.

      DM

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      • personman

        #4
        Who cares. Our mod squad left because the form was dying. And now that its pretty much dead and not all that interesting anymore (maybe its just me) there is no reason to have 5 or 6 moderators hanging around. The few that we have left do the job fine. In fact I was just recently banned

        *TEAR*

        If you get banned, get over it, its an internet forum. If you don't and you should have, then you're a ninja. You shouldn't be on the internet anyway, you should be off killing innocent people.

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        • maxama10
          Take off every zig!
          • Sep 2004
          • 1497

          #5
          thats what I call REAL ULTIMATE POWER!

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          • Lenny
            I AM the AO famous!
            • Dec 2003
            • 1628

            #6
            I still don't understand the whole fiasco. So some threads were deleted and some people banned. What's the big deal? Were the threads really that important? And everyone that was banned was only given a temp. ban.

            And besides, it's just the internet.

            ///This is comming from someone who doesn't pay much attention to the e-world. Also, I have never been banned and only warned 2 or so times in my history with AO. This was not meant to be insulting, so please do not take it as so.
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            • teufelhunden
              Registered Bamf
              • Jul 2003
              • 2691

              #7
              There should be an option "I don't care and the OP is an idiot who desperately needs some sort of worthy 'cause' outside of being a rebel on a message board" because I'm fairly sure that would garner a substantial amount of votes.
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              • Z-man
                You guys lost me
                • Jul 2001
                • 2202

                #8
                The changes proposed in this thread would not bring me back to be a contributing member on this forum. There is far more that needs to be done that will not be.


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                • drg
                  Half-cocked
                  • Oct 2004
                  • 1112

                  #9
                  Originally posted by teufelhunden
                  There should be an option "I don't care and the OP is an idiot who desperately needs some sort of worthy 'cause' outside of being a rebel on a message board" because I'm fairly sure that would garner a substantial amount of votes.
                  That's essentially what I meant by voting #3
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                  • ThePixelGuru
                    Guru of Pixels
                    • May 2005
                    • 1461

                    #10
                    Originally posted by teufelhunden
                    There should be an option "I don't care and the OP is an idiot who desperately needs some sort of worthy 'cause' outside of being a rebel on a message board" because I'm fairly sure that would garner a substantial amount of votes.
                    That's funny, because you're pretty much flaming me and the fact that the mods won't do a damn thing about it just proves my point. Oh, and I'm not going to argue about my life and personal fulfillment; I'm perfectly happy with it. Thanks for your input!

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                    • bornl33t
                      hello lamewads
                      • Oct 2000
                      • 4463

                      #11
                      well hey, when you hang a sign around you're neck that says "kick me" you can't be surprised when some one does.....

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                      • Duzzy
                        Mentally confused, wanders

                        • Apr 2004
                        • 940

                        #12
                        So if I agree that the 3 main points are valid, but feel that this entire situation is embarrassing, idiotic, and childish what should I vote?

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                        • teufelhunden
                          Registered Bamf
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 2691

                          #13
                          Originally posted by ThePixelGuru
                          That's funny, because you're pretty much flaming me and the fact that the mods won't do a damn thing about it just proves my point. Oh, and I'm not going to argue about my life and personal fulfillment; I'm perfectly happy with it. Thanks for your input!
                          It's not pretty much, it's quite direct.
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                          • bofh
                            Waldorf, the Heckler
                            • Jul 2001
                            • 1248

                            #14
                            Originally posted by personman
                            Who cares.
                            No complaining about the lack of option for Pie?
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                            • nmib
                              Ebay Ninja Status
                              • May 2007
                              • 341

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Z-man
                              The changes proposed in this thread would not bring me back to be a contributing member on this forum. There is far more that needs to be done that will not be.

                              Zak your wasting your breath, most of these people have no clue who you are. Plus everyone who knows you is else where

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