What discontinued sports car would you choose?

[SCpoloRicker]

I will admit i haven't gotten behind the wheel of a mustang, but there's good reason for that. Also, i know enough people who have had mustangs and have said the same exact thing, you can make them handle better but you can't make them handle well, and that seems to be ford's problem because every single ford i have driven has handled horribly. I know for a fact that the Shelby GT500 which is more expensive than the other mustang handles worse than the other mustang because they added something like 200 horsepower but kept the same live axle that the old one had. That one for sure can't go anywhere but in a straight line, even though it costs more. My government teacher who is an avid mustang fan said that he got his wife the sport version and they were going around corners with their mustangs with their friend, and she was sort of doing well (didn't handle phenomenally) but their stock versions were sliding all over the place. My dad even had one back in the day and said that their handling was below par, but he loved how it looked. The ONLY cars that ford has ever had that handle well, they didn't even make. The original Shelby Cobra and the GT40 were their only cars that could handle well, and ford didn't even make those cars.

BRRAAAIIINNNSSS

[snoopay700]

BRRAAAIIINNNSSS

Right, i don't have a brain, i'm following the crowd like a zombie, i don't know what i'm talking about.

Please do enlighten me as to where i'm wrong, but all evidence i have seen shows they can't handle corners well, and that's all i'm saying. I'm not saying all american cars are bad, just fords.

[skife]

Right, i don't have a brain, i'm following the crowd like a zombie, i don't know what i'm talking about.

Please do enlighten me as to where i'm wrong, but all evidence i have seen shows they can't handle corners well, and that's all i'm saying. I'm not saying all american cars are bad, just fords.

you havn't shown evidence, all that you have shown is other people's opinions.

this is the track records page for the local SCCA roadcourse around here

http://www.grattanraceway.com/trackrecords.html

how many of those records are set by a mustang? oh wait, i forgot, mustangs don't handle well



now, show me your evidence.

[Lohman446]

But track times measure a combination of things, and the mustang excels at not being the best of anything but being above the middle of the road of everything.

You have to understand though, the slant of online racers to ricers . That being said I think I could have a lot of fun playing with a modified RX7. Thats why I started pulling European things, to try to show a different slant. And I still the the 928 offers a neat combination for a front engine car.

[skife]

But track times measure a combination of things, and the mustang excels at not being the best of anything but being above the middle of the road of everything.

You have to understand though, the slant of online racers to ricers . That being said I think I could have a lot of fun playing with a modified RX7. Thats why I started pulling European things, to try to show a different slant. And I still the the 928 offers a neat combination for a front engine car.

I think an RX7 would be a riot too.
mid 80's, gutted, N/A ported to hell, revving to 9k... mmmmmm

It'd have the powerband of a dirtbike

[Ruler_Mark]

you havn't shown evidence, all that you have shown is other people's opinions.

this is the track records page for the local SCCA roadcourse around here

http://www.grattanraceway.com/trackrecords.html

how many of those records are set by a mustang? oh wait, i forgot, mustangs don't handle well



now, show me your evidence.

its a dirt course, no wonder the horse won. it just jump the walls and went from start -> finish. :rofl:

[snoopay700]

you havn't shown evidence, all that you have shown is other people's opinions.

this is the track records page for the local SCCA roadcourse around here

http://www.grattanraceway.com/trackrecords.html

how many of those records are set by a mustang? oh wait, i forgot, mustangs don't handle well



now, show me your evidence.

I never said that they can't be made to handle better, just that from the factory they aren't good. And lap times at a track like that (public) say nothing about the car, only the driver, and it is different between pavement and dirt. If you show me someone driving a factory tuned mustang holding a record, then have that same person driving another car i will say they can handle well, but when i see a guy that drives for fun and isn't all that great beat a pro in a mustang (and might i add that the car the other guy was driving had about only 200 horsepower) i'm sorry but i'm inclined to stay firm when i say they can't handle well. Yes, they are better than they were (except teh GT500, that thing has a live axle and if you say that thing handles well you don't know what you're talking about) and they can be made to perform better with after market parts, but the fact still remains from the factory they're no where near stellar as far as handling.

[skife]

I never said that they can't be made to handle better, just that from the factory they aren't good. And lap times at a track like that (public) say nothing about the car, only the driver, and it is different between pavement and dirt. If you show me someone driving a factory tuned mustang holding a record, then have that same person driving another car i will say they can handle well, but when i see a guy that drives for fun and isn't all that great beat a pro in a mustang (and might i add that the car the other guy was driving had about only 200 horsepower) i'm sorry but i'm inclined to stay firm when i say they can't handle well. Yes, they are better than they were (except teh GT500, that thing has a live axle and if you say that thing handles well you don't know what you're talking about) and they can be made to perform better with after market parts, but the fact still remains from the factory they're no where near stellar as far as handling.

again, your opinion is coming from someone who has never driven one, nor even drives currently.



and we'll just forget about the .80 lateral G's the SVO could hold.

and we'll forget about the IRS on the '03-04 Cobras.

we all know if its made in america its a pig and won't do anything but turn left fast

[snoopay700]

again, your opinion is coming from someone who has never driven one, nor even drives currently.



and we'll just forget about the .80 lateral G's the SVO could hold.

and we'll forget about the IRS on the '03-04 Cobras.

we all know if its made in america its a pig and won't do anything but turn left fast

Ok, if you read my previous post you would see that my opinion is formed by those that drove them and own them, so don't tell me where i'm getting my opinion. I never said that if it's made in america it sucks, i have a problem with FORD, not american cars. Every single ford i have driven could not handle stock, yes you can make them handle if you up them, but stock they are horrible. On the other hand, i like chevy, they are probably the best american brand. Don't make assumptions about me because of my opinion on one car or one brand, it makes you look like a fool.

[SCpoloRicker]

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[skife]

Ok, if you read my previous post you would see that my opinion is formed by those that drove them and own them, so don't tell me where i'm getting my opinion. I never said that if it's made in america it sucks, i have a problem with FORD, not american cars. Every single ford i have driven could not handle stock, yes you can make them handle if you up them, but stock they are horrible. On the other hand, i like chevy, they are probably the best american brand. Don't make assumptions about me because of my opinion on one car or one brand, it makes you look like a fool.

okay, your opinion is based on the opinions of others.


I'm sold.
Selling the mustang tomorrow.

$600, anyone want it?

[snoopay700]

okay, your opinion is based on the opinions of others.


I'm sold.
Selling the mustang tomorrow.

$600, anyone want it?

Well people that i trust that have driven cars that handle well as well. I'm not saying that mustangs can't handle well, but for the most part they don't handle well stock, you CAn get certain models that do handle fairly well from what i've heard, but mustangs have never seemed to be all about handling and seemed to be more about power. And you asked for proof, well the one example i was giving of a mustang that absolutely can't handle, the GT500, i can show you proof of that, it has a primitive live rear axle, you can't expect that thing to handle well.

Now corvettes, those are nice american cars, but i can't stand fords, i will concede that you can make a mustang handle well, but you can make any car handle well too, from the factory they don't seem to handle the best.

I'll change my opinion if i drive a stock mustang that handles well, and if you would like to contribute to that that's fine, but seeing as i haven't driven a mustang and don't have the opportunity, all i can go off of is others' opinions.

[Hilltop Customs]

mustangs put out some decent times, but Id be willing to bet with the same investment, an import could produce the same times. This is all opinion based, look at the titile of the thread.

The truth, get any car, drive it on the track....and no matter what car you get, you will increasingly put out better times with experience. thats the simplest way I can put it. If you dont agree, then I pity you.

[snoopay700]

mustangs put out some decent times, but Id be willing to bet with the same investment, an import could produce the same times. This is all opinion based, look at the titile of the thread.

The truth, get any car, drive it on the track....and no matter what car you get, you will increasingly put out better times with experience. thats the simplest way I can put it. If you dont agree, then I pity you.

Exactly, you can be fast with any car given the right track, and even if the car does have short comings you can overcome them. And i still have to go off of what i have heard of mustangs from relatives and friends and mustang enthusiasts on the handling of mustangs until i get the chance to drive a stock one myself. And for the record, one of those people was a guy who thought that mustangs were the best american cars ever, and he still said that stock they don't handle well unless you spring for the more expensive version, and then it handles better but it's nothing special.

[Lohman446]

mustangs put out some decent times, but Id be willing to bet with the same investment, an import could produce the same times. This is all opinion based, look at the titile of the thread.

The truth, get any car, drive it on the track....and no matter what car you get, you will increasingly put out better times with experience. thats the simplest way I can put it. If you dont agree, then I pity you.

I highly doubt you would do it for the same $$. However neat an RX7 modification project would be nothing in them is reasonably priced. The Mustang has a tremendous aftermarket