What discontinued sports car would you choose?

[Pneumagger]

I've never really been into putting speakers and stuff into my car, but then again when i'm driving alone, unless i'm on the interstate i usually don't listen to music, unless it's an automatic car.

I listen to white boy music only. Don't worry.
Car still has the stock stereo in it and interior speakers are old.
Probably just going to put in some punchy 10's and some 3way interior speakers with a decent 4x50w head unit.

I may even update the built in old school radar detector to accomodate Laser/IR.
Put sensors on the four corners of the roof. Maybe install some lidar jammers.
Then wire it all up to the factory switches. The detector is built right into the dash.
It looks so natural I wouldn't doubt it's factory (if they did that).

[snoopay700]

I listen to white boy music only. Don't worry.
Car still has the stock stereo in it and interior speakers are old.
Probably just going to put in some punchy 10's and some 3way interior speakers with a decent 4x50w head unit.

I may even update the built in old school radar detector to accomodate Laser/IR.
Put sensors on the four corners of the roof. Maybe install some lidar jammers.
Then wire it all up to the factory switches. The detector is built right into the dash.
It looks so natural I wouldn't doubt it's factory (if they did that).

Yeah, i normally keep the stock stereo, because if i'm driving by myself i'm almost always trying to improve some aspect of my driving, like back before my accident i constantly would just work on shift and accelerator and brake control and i also got to the point where you couldn't really feel any shift shock at all, which made all my friends who drove manual seem really jerky when i rode with them, even if they did it pretty smoothly. Because of my obsessions on little details like that it translated to a lot better driving and faster times. I really need a car, especially one i can do stuff like that with.

[Hilltop Customs]

Yeah, i normally keep the stock stereo, because if i'm driving by myself i'm almost always trying to improve some aspect of my driving, like back before my accident i constantly would just work on shift and accelerator and brake control and i also got to the point where you couldn't really feel any shift shock at all, which made all my friends who drove manual seem really jerky when i rode with them, even if they did it pretty smoothly. Because of my obsessions on little details like that it translated to a lot better driving and faster times. I really need a car, especially one i can do stuff like that with.

reminds me of back when I had my truck with a 5 speed, when I drove it was smooth, let a friend drive and your heads jerking around. Stereo blasting with no rpm gauge is rough, but I had it just about mastered in that truck be4 she went to the yard. On my bike I'm smooth as butter, clutchless upshifts, rev matching downshifts....the guys I ride with hate me because I'm so good at downshifting and decelerating without brakes (ive resorted to always tapping the the rear brake any time I'm slowing down....dont wanna be rear ended)

[Pneumagger]

reminds me of back when I had my truck with a 5 speed, when I drove it was smooth, let a friend drive and your heads jerking around. Stereo blasting with no rpm gauge is rough, but I had it just about mastered in that truck be4 she went to the yard. On my bike I'm smooth as butter, clutchless upshifts, rev matching downshifts....the guys I ride with hate me because I'm so good at downshifting and decelerating without brakes (ive resorted to always tapping the the rear brake any time I'm slowing down....dont wanna be rear ended)

Might be different for bikes...

But I was always told to not down shift unless the conditions warranted it.
That $30 worth of brake pads are cheaper than replacing a clutch twice as often.
Makes sense to me. The brakes are designed to stop the car... so use them.

[snoopay700]

Might be different for bikes...

But I was always told to not down shift unless the conditions warranted it.
That $30 worth of brake pads are cheaper than replacing a clutch twice as often.
Makes sense to me. The brakes are designed to stop the car... so use them.

I use both if i'm trying to beat the red light and keep momentum, but if i'm driving seriously i use the brakes and downshift.

[Hilltop Customs]

Might be different for bikes...

But I was always told to not down shift unless the conditions warranted it.
That $30 worth of brake pads are cheaper than replacing a clutch twice as often.
Makes sense to me. The brakes are designed to stop the car... so use them.

rev matching can put stress on the clutches, but the closer you match the rpm to the throttle blip, the less wear will happen. pull in clutch, downshift as you blip the gas, and release the clutch as the engine peaks it rpm in the blip. Bike clutches can take some serious pounding, slipping the clutch for burnouts, slipping to pull wheelies, slipping for hard acceleration off the line. I beat my bike, gone through a few chains and sprockets, slipped the clutch to the point I thought it had to be toasted. Its still not slipping, even under the hardest acceleration, and slipping for wheelies where it would be really noticeable.

Cars you have a lot more weight and torque to deal with that all has to get transferred through the clutch.

Also downshift too hard on a bike and the rear tire will slide slightly....almost like locking up the rear break, but not as severe. The weight transfer during hard deceleration puts all of the weight over the front wheel, so there is a ton less torque to deal with compared to a car.

dont get me wrong, i dont only use engine breaking, but its amazing how much engine breaking these 600cc sport bikes can produce and how smooth it is if you can match the rpm. Also downshifting early keeps you in the powerband of these high revving engines.

sorry for the long explanation, cold weathers arriving and I already miss my bike

[snoopay700]

rev matching can put stress on the clutches, but the closer you match the rpm to the throttle blip, the less wear will happen. pull in clutch, downshift as you blip the gas, and release the clutch as the engine peaks it rpm in the blip. Bike clutches can take some serious pounding, slipping the clutch for burnouts, slipping to pull wheelies, slipping for hard acceleration off the line. I beat my bike, gone through a few chains and sprockets, slipped the clutch to the point I thought it had to be toasted. Its still not slipping, even under the hardest acceleration, and slipping for wheelies where it would be really noticeable.

Cars you have a lot more weight and torque to deal with that all has to get transferred through the clutch.

Also downshift too hard on a bike and the rear tire will slide slightly....almost like locking up the rear break, but not as severe. The weight transfer during hard deceleration puts all of the weight over the front wheel, so there is a ton less torque to deal with compared to a car.

dont get me wrong, i dont only use engine breaking, but its amazing how much engine breaking these 600cc sport bikes can produce and how smooth it is if you can match the rpm. Also downshifting early keeps you in the powerband of these high revving engines.

sorry for the long explanation, cold weathers arriving and I already miss my bike

I've always wanted to try riding a bike, but i don't think i would have as much fun as in a car. I dunno, i've always been a huge gearhead but it seems to have stayed fairly limited to cars, i mean i definitely respect the great motorcyclists, but i don't think that i personally would ever be good enough to have any fun.

[Hilltop Customs]

short version: start slow, slowly improve as you learn. Motorcycle safety courses are great, very informative and free its basically the same as a car, except mistakes are more likely to hurt you on a bike than in a car.


Long version:
You just have to be smooth....at first you just have to learn to be comfortable(i dont mean thinking your comfortable and pushing too hard, which is so easy to do) and SLOWLY decrease times if your on a track. The same thing can be accomplished by picking a piece of road and learning it, slowly push yourself staying completely under control. Some people say pick a road which is low in traffic, I think that just entices you to push too hard and use both lanes....which is dangerous. Id rather pick a piece of road that is twisty and moderately traveled so you are always expecting traffic and riding safely. Then you just have to worry about cops

Either way though, a parking lot is the best choice for the first few times on a bike to get used to the controls and the feeling if you havent had any experience with atvs, dirbikes or anything similar. Even this isnt completely safe, my old roomate tried to ride my dirtbike in a parking lot.....he revved to the powerband(CR250 ) and dumped the clutch I was :rofl: as the bike flipped and he landed on his back.

If I had a choice, I would have learned to ride on a track. Its too easy to make bad decisions when your new to riding, and having other cars there increase the danger of those decisions. I had a few times when new to riding that I put myself in bad situations where, if there was a car in the other lane, I would have been severely hurt or killed.....I ride safer now, I still tear it up, but I know my limits....thats key on a bike. knock on wood lol

[snoopay700]

short version: start slow, slowly improve as you learn. Motorcycle safety courses are great, very informative and free its basically the same as a car, except mistakes are more likely to hurt you on a bike than in a car.


Long version:
You just have to be smooth....at first you just have to learn to be comfortable(i dont mean thinking your comfortable and pushing too hard, which is so easy to do) and SLOWLY decrease times if your on a track. The same thing can be accomplished by picking a piece of road and learning it, slowly push yourself staying completely under control. Some people say pick a road which is low in traffic, I think that just entices you to push too hard and use both lanes....which is dangerous. Id rather pick a piece of road that is twisty and moderately traveled so you are always expecting traffic and riding safely. Then you just have to worry about cops

Either way though, a parking lot is the best choice for the first few times on a bike to get used to the controls and the feeling if you havent had any experience with atvs, dirbikes or anything similar. Even this isnt completely safe, my old roomate tried to ride my dirtbike in a parking lot.....he revved to the powerband(CR250 ) and dumped the clutch I was :rofl: as the bike flipped and he landed on his back.

If I had a choice, I would have learned to ride on a track. Its too easy to make bad decisions when your new to riding, and having other cars there increase the danger of those decisions. I had a few times when new to riding that I put myself in bad situations where, if there was a car in the other lane, I would have been severely hurt or killed.....I ride safer now, I still tear it up, but I know my limits....thats key on a bike. knock on wood lol

Yeah, knowing limits is important, as well as knowing the roads you ride on. I dunno, i think having an older bike on a country road would be nice, but i still just can't see myself on a bike, i've always seen myself behind a wheel, i've just always been more comfortable with that.