X-Men Origins... Steaming pile of cow dung

[Drachen]

but then again, none of the movies are really following the comic closely, look at rogue

What's wrong with the Rogue character?

[SCpoloRicker]

What's wrong with the Rogue character?

Within the film universe: Not much.

Normal nerd: She is an adult, same age as the rest of the team. She can fly, and has "super-strength" in addition to the ability to absorb another mutant's powers. If she had a love interest, it should be Gambit.

Extra powers nerd: Weird details about storylines that are not really "canon" anyways. Rogue is from LA/New Orleans. Gambit sucked in the books too, get over it.

[sandfreestyle]

I haven't seen this movie yet but it sounds as if it is in the same boat as the Dragon Ball movie, wrecked to hell. Seriously, they need people who actually know the backround of story and the specifics to write scripts. Look at Spider-man, shot to hell with lack of all the stuff that made him and his opponents cool.

[Drachen]

Within the film universe: Not much.

Normal nerd: She is an adult, same age as the rest of the team. She can fly, and has "super-strength" in addition to the ability to absorb another mutant's powers. If she had a love interest, it should be Gambit.

But see, that's the thing. Early on, Rogue couldn't fly, and she didn't have super strength. She got her flying and strength powers through another mutant, The Phoenix (I think), that never really went away.

So for the movie to have her as no having powers, since she was younger in the movie, it's not a big deal. Though yes, her being younger than the rest of the team is different, but not a big deal. So long as she wasn't older and still couldn't fly.

[SCpoloRicker]

Hey, we are being nit-picky here.

The treatment of Rogue is not one of my big problems with the films. My issue (and this happened in Spiderman as well) is that the filmmakers try to include far, far too many elements.

I would have loved to see the Phoenix story told over three films. Or the Sentinel Rising storyline, as three films. Or, the Asgardian story, as three films.

They try to cram too much in, and the result is no one cares about the characters.

[Drachen]

Hey, we are being nit-picky here.

The treatment of Rogue is not one of my big problems with the films. My issue (and this happened in Spiderman as well) is that the filmmakers try to include far, far too many elements.

I would have loved to see the Phoenix story told over three films. Or the Sentinel Rising storyline, as three films. Or, the Asgardian story, as three films.

They try to cram too much in, and the result is no one cares about the characters.

Oooooh how I would love to see a movie with the Sentinel Rising in it.....
Maybe though, just maybe, after the next Origins movie (Magneto), they'll do something with that.

But to go too in depth about Rogues character and how she got her powers....I don't think there would be too many people going to see that movie. Besides the comic nerds and such, the common person probably won't care too much. So they pick the more popular characters, and mash it to hell.

I liked the movie, though when seeing any movie that's based around a comic book, I go in with very low expectations. And with those low expectations, I tend to like the movie. Though most can always be better in some way, shape, or form.

[SCpoloRicker]

Litmus test threadjack (I'm speaking to relatively speaking nerd-ish types)

How did you feel about:

1. The first three X-Men films

2. Watchmen

Point being, the X-Men films exist in a new 'universe'. That conceded, there can be deviations from the comic world. Especially since the comic world is notorious for reboots/ret-cons/back-from-the-dead elements. If I liked the new film 'universe', I would be fine with making changes with the characters.

A common complaint of the film Watchmen is that it is too committed to the source material. Outside of the Squid, this is a reasonable comment, though I disagree with the 'too faithful' comment. The Squid issue is a separate discussion; it's not a pervasive element of the treatment of the source material, it's a specific change.

/the new Star Trek is good. I work for the new Star Trek movie, so I'm really getting a kick out of a lot of these replies...
//old-skool cliche
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[Babylon 5]

But see, that's the thing. Early on, Rogue couldn't fly, and she didn't have super strength. She got her flying and strength powers through another mutant, The Phoenix (I think), that never really went away.

So for the movie to have her as no having powers, since she was younger in the movie, it's not a big deal. Though yes, her being younger than the rest of the team is different, but not a big deal. So long as she wasn't older and still couldn't fly.

Actually Rogue got her super strength and flying abilities from absorbing the life energy of Ms. Marvel, which sent her phsycal body into a coma.

[TeamBob]

wth did u just say :rofl:

[sandfreestyle]

This thread proves that we're all nerds.

And people wonder why I build superhero/villain markers

[Babylon 5]

Litmus test threadjack (I'm speaking to relatively speaking nerd-ish types)

How did you feel about:

1. The first three X-Men films

2. Watchmen

X-men

Well the first two were good, I really liked them. But he third one sucked for me cause they just started to kill characters off because they didn't know what to do with them. Or turn charcters into mutants. I mean come on the Jugger Naught is not a mutant he has a mystic helmet that gives him his power. Stuff like that bothered me.

Watchmen

Watchmen was great for the way they handled it, cause there is so much going on in the comic book that they were able to put most of that story on the big screen was amazing. As for the squid ending it didn't bother me cause the end out come was still the same as in the comic book.

[Drachen]

Actually Rogue got her super strength and flying abilities from absorbing the life energy of Ms. Marvel, which sent her phsycal body into a coma.

See...I've read a different comic that said it was from someone called Phoenix....then again, that was a long time ago, and I barely remember what I did yesterday lol.

But regardless, she still got those powers from someone else, when she was a adult. So since they had her as a teen in the three movies, it's better off they at least kept that the same.

I mean come on the Jugger Naught is not a mutant he has a mystic helmet that gives him his power. Stuff like that bothered me.

There's also a comic out that says Wolverine's "mutant ability" was actually rage, and not necessarily the health regeneration.

Way too many different Universe's out there that have little things altered and tweaked to get pissed off over the differences in a movie.

[Babylon 5]

DEADPOOL the next X-men spin off.

How do you come back from decapitation? I was wondering how they could screw this character up more.



Reynolds to reprise Deadpool in "X-Men" spin-off

[BiNumber3]

well i didnt mean to mention the rogue issue as a major issue, just as another example of how the movie hasnt followed the comic since there were gripes with gambit n deadpool.

but, very few movies follow their soucre to the letter, especially when the source is as expansive as the marvel universe.
even movies made from much shorter books n such often are changed quite a bit.

[Drachen]

Maybe they'll actually have a masked dead pool...