Gun Control

[Henchman]

You haven't listened to a single word thats been written in this thread. Congratulations.

I sure have.
Everybody is innocent,right?

[stonersr26]

You don't know what you are talking about. I have been active LEO for five years and spent four years in college before that to be a LEO. The legal system is just that LEGAL, it doesn't give two ****s about Justice. The only thing the current legal system is about is CASH and CONTROL. The reason the 2nd amendment was put into place was because the Founding Fathers had enough of the stupid s*** people of your mindset spew. They knew that an armed population would help to keep the government in check. Did it work???? Partially considering that historically we are the only country successfully born out of a revolution and we have survived for over 200 years with most of our rights intact.

Anyone with any common sense and knowledge of history can tell you though that this country is in deep s*** with the way the government from both sides of the aisle have been screwing things up and the government educated morons who want to pop baby's out and sit on welfare keep right on helping them.

The fact is Henchman, you are a new member who has done nothing but troll and piss people off. You wanna do that? Fine, last time I checked they haven't made that illegal yet.

[Henchman]

As if people in Amerca are ever going to revolt against anything.
Get real.

[Henchman]

And America most certainly isn't teh only country born out of revolution.
Colleges didn't teach you that much, did it.

[maniacmechanic]

just a few points ;

Originally Posted by Henchman
Everybody is innocent,right? used to be " until proven guilty "
Now the Federal Govt. can pick you up & hold you indefinitely , not let you call anyone just by using the word terrorist

Originally Posted by Henchman
America most certainly isn't teh only country born out of revolution. Although the most successful

Originally Posted by Henchman
get your record expunged. in other words pay a Lawyer

Originally Posted by Henchman
Do you think known and convicted criminals should legally be allowed to own guns?
A simple yes or no question. no it is not a simple yes on no question , laws are being passed every day that make good citizens " criminals " without their knowledge

Originally Posted by Henchman
Traffic violations? criminal offense ? not a yes or no , depends on the violation
Any DUI's? criminal offense ? yes , does this mean the offender is a violent felon ?

Originally Posted by Henchman
As if people in Amerca are ever going to revolt against anything.
Get real. look around some folks are beginning to get fed up

I wonder how much gun sales have went up in the past 3 years ? In the town where I live gun stores are popping up like crazy

[Henchman]

Anybody who doesn't have the common sense to stay out of fights or drive drunk has no business owning a gun.

[dahoeb]

Anybody who doesn't have the common sense to stay out of fights or drive drunk has no business owning a gun.

Who are you to make the determination where our rights end?

You clearly think that grown men are nothing more than brutes and animals, incapable of thinking for themselves or worthy of their own self defense.... and you think someone getting into a fight or driving drunk once is enough to validate that opinion? Weak. Very weak.

[dahoeb]

As if people in Amerca are ever going to revolt against anything.
Get real.

Ha, easy to say from whatever ivory tower you hang out in. Even if that tower is in your head.

[dahoeb]

I sure have.
Everybody is innocent,right?

Like was previously said, everyone is innocent until proven guilty. I don't even see what relevance you're statement has on anything. It's a sad world you live in where you'd like to see my RIGHTS become void because of the actions of a criminal.

And you didn't answer my previous questions, Comrade Henchman, whats next? Cars kill and maim far more than guns, do you suppose we ban those from public use as well? Make everyone take a government approved bus?

[Henchman]

Like was previously said, everyone is innocent until proven guilty. I don't even see what relevance you're statement has on anything. It's a sad world you live in where you'd like to see my RIGHTS become void because of the actions of a criminal.

And you didn't answer my previous questions, Comrade Henchman, whats next? Cars kill and maim far more than guns, do you suppose we ban those from public use as well? Make everyone take a government approved bus?

No, you void your rights when you break the law.
And a grown man getting arrested for fights and DUI's obviously isnt responsible enough to own gun.

[Henchman]

Interesting to note what direction the name calling comes fom as well.

[dahoeb]

No, you void your rights when you break the law.
And a grown man getting arrested for fights and DUI's obviously isnt responsible enough to own gun.

OOhhh, ok. Thank you comrade for determining where my rights end. So what if I forget to pay a bill? Am I then too irresponsible? What if I accidentally rear-end a car? What if I get a parking/speeding ticket? Why should they be exempt? By you're logic, barely half the country would be eligible for their constitutional right to bear arms. If it was your way, it's nice to know that if I got into a bar fight one night (whether it's my fault or not) suddenly voided my right to bear arms!

So riddle me this batman....we have people in the military who have DUI's and quite often get into bar fights. And they're entrusted with weapons FAR more dangerous than what mere civilians have access to. So do we kick out everyone in the military thats ever been in a "fight" as well? Do we immediately discharge anyone in the military as soon as they get a DUI (because they're such a threat with their guns)? It's interesting that towns surrounding bases aren't riddled with razed building, dead bodies and burning cars, if you're logic was based in reality, I'd expect to see that.

With convicted felons, it's at least consistent that they can't legally own firearms and can't be in the military.

You don't quite understand the difference between a right and a priveledge.

[dahoeb]

Interesting to note what direction the name calling comes fom as well.

I think it's more interesting (and much more telling) to watch you avoid every point thats been made in this thread. I guess repeating the same shallow bumper sticker lines can only take you so far.

[Henchman]

Actually, getting a DUI while in the military can get you booted out.

http://www.straightdui.com/dui_articles_dui_in_the_military.asp

[going_home]

Is it possible to nicely tell someone they are a dolt ?