So...How's it going?

[Nobody]

And all I have to say is, 34 felonies. 34 criminal acts. It will take a lot of effort to prove someone innocent of all of those charges... just saying

[Loguzzzzzz]

So companies developing different means, in regards to mobility(hydrogen, pure electric, hybrid, diesel electric, even ion propulsion), is not a choice. While only using petroleum products has many choices? I know people joke that people from West Virginia are backwards, but are they now upside-down?

You do know where most electricity comes from, right?!?!



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Just sayn'

(I know, it isn't a fact because you didn't hear it from CNN or the rest of MSM)


such a tool.... Oh wait, you're a bridge troll

[Nobody]

You do know where most electricity comes from, right?!?!



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Just sayn'

(I know, it isn't a fact because you didn't hear it from CNN or the rest of MSM)


such a tool.... Oh wait, you're a bridge troll

You do know those totals do not equal 100%, right?

Anyway, what is used now, or used before, does not mean that we cannot change it in the future. Moving away from petroleum and especially coal. Finding cleaner, cheaper and better energy sources only means we as a society, we as a people are progressing forward. Those newer energy sources can mean we can travel faster farther and better.

[Loguzzzzzz]

You do know those totals do not equal 100%, right?

Anyway, what is used now, or used before, does not mean that we cannot change it in the future. Moving away from petroleum and especially coal. Finding cleaner, cheaper and better energy sources only means we as a society, we as a people are progressing forward. Those newer energy sources can mean we can travel faster farther and better.

Yes, I do know that. Technically Natural Gas is a Fossil fuel so not quite sure why they show it except for some sort of clarity.

Point being unless they expand nuclear power (which will never happen) there is not enough wind or sun to support the grid. Electric vehicles are not a viable option large scale.

[maniacmechanic]

Coal was the first real energy source, when man destroys the Earth , coal will be the energy source
The Top number " total " add the 3 ( gas,coal, petro )they add up real close to the " total " , all 3 are FF's

[Nobody]

Coal was the first real energy source, when man destroys the Earth , coal will be the energy source
The Top number " total " add the 3 ( gas,coal, petro )they add up real close to the " total " , all 3 are FF's

You kinda forgot about wood. Was probably used for "energy" for at longer than recorded history. Before Christ? Yes. Before the pyramids where built, yes again. Used when them when them non-homo sapiens were about? Absolutely. But guess the schools in West Virginia can only teach things about and related to, coal...

[Nobody]

Yes, I do know that. Technically Natural Gas is a Fossil fuel so not quite sure why they show it except for some sort of clarity.

Point being unless they expand nuclear power (which will never happen) there is not enough wind or sun to support the grid. Electric vehicles are not a viable option large scale.

Oh, you need to change your republican search options to, not cherrypick, admit renewable energies and to use proper math.

But there is a way to have nuclear power for the people but you would never support it. Since the US Navy has not had an accident in 50 years, one would think that if you DON'T privatize them, where greed and corruption can occur and have the navy run them that you could have the power that we need without any problems. But that would go against your supposed credence of not having the government interfere in our lives, except for medical needs of mothers with unwanted tumors, religion, Healthcare and the right to tax all citizens. But I digress...

edit and Cali has enacted a electric truck policy, which will turn all the trucks to electric. Which does 2 things. Fix pollution and move goods. Like every single gle policy that the GOP holds dear, they are all centuries old and not of this time.

[Loguzzzzzz]

Oh, you need to change your republican search options to, not cherrypick, admit renewable energies and to use proper math.

I Googled it and clicked on the first link that made sense...Google = Republican, since when...

....But there is a way to have nuclear power for the people but you would never support it. Since the US Navy has not had an accident in 50 years, one would think that if you DON'T privatize them, where greed and corruption can occur and have the navy run them that you could have the power that we need without any problems. But that would go against your supposed credence of not having the government interfere in our lives, except for medical needs of mothers with unwanted tumors, religion, Healthcare and the right to tax all citizens. But I digress...

You have no idea what I would support. Stop trying to guess. You have to sell it to Gen Pop. People will just remember Three Mile Island (March 28, 1979), Chernobyl (April 26, 1986), Fukushima (March 11, 2011). Good Luck with that.

....edit and Cali has enacted a electric truck policy, which will turn all the trucks to electric. Which does 2 things. Fix pollution and move goods. Like every single gle policy that the GOP holds dear, they are all centuries old and not of this time.

No, what that did was just insure that trucks which do not want to come to California already, won't. The supply chain will be even more broken. What that does make it worse here. It will be more expensive to live here and much worse than anywhere else in the country.

YAY!
Way to go Governor Newsance...

[maniacmechanic]

You kinda forgot about wood. Was probably used for "energy" for at longer than recorded history. Before Christ? Yes. Before the pyramids where built, yes again. Used when them when them non-homo sapiens were about? Absolutely. But guess the schools in West Virginia can only teach things about and related to, coal...

,,,,,,,,,,, mrnoitall

https://www.alliantenergykids.com/AllAboutEnergy/HistoryofEnergy

[Nobody]

I Googled it and clicked on the first link that made sense...Google = Republican, since when...

There is no problem with Google, but you missed the part about cherrypicking. I know it's second nature by no2, but you could try to be so blatant.

You have no idea what I would support. Stop trying to guess. You have to sell it to Gen Pop. People will just remember Three Mile Island (March 28, 1979), Chernobyl (April 26, 1986), Fukushima (March 11, 2011). Good Luck with that.

Again, read what I wrote. The US Navy has not had any accidents like that. 3 mile island and Chernobyl were disasters because of corruption, 1 was a private company and the other was state corruption. Fukushima was caused by natural conditions. They did everything right, with plenty of safe guards but Mother nature decided to up what it could handle.

Now, it won't be easy to sell it to the people without having the safeguards for the safeguards, but for the immediate future, in order to provide the energy needs for the people, until safer and better solutions come around, that we can get rid of nuclear power. Hence why I proposed the US Navy run them.

No, what that did was just insure that trucks which do not want to come to California already, won't. The supply chain will be even more broken. What that does make it worse here. It will be more expensive to live here and much worse than anywhere else in the country.

YAY!
Way to go Governor Newsance...

And yet the newer companies that will comply and will go there will have an unfettered monopoly. Capitalism at work. If you didn't know when progress starts, you either join in or move out of the way.

[Nobody]

,,,,,,,,,,, mrnoitall
https://www.alliantenergykids.com/Al...istoryofEnergy

I guess you can only understand easily digested hand picked material, but even if you consider that in order to cook food, you needed fire. That was even before natural gas was used to light Baltimore. And ever look at those European castles, from the stone edifices to the dirt Mott structures. There was no plumbing, and the hearth burned wood(even peat moss, but that is a different subject) to heat and to cook. So again, you are missing the entire point that coal, or fossil fuels are only a couple hundred years old, but use of renewable energy, like planting trees to then be burned, has been used for 100s of thousands of years.

[maniacmechanic]

I guess you can only understand easily digested hand picked material, but even if you consider that in order to cook food, you needed fire. That was even before natural gas was used to light Baltimore. And ever look at those European castles, from the stone edifices to the dirt Mott structures. There was no plumbing, and the hearth burned wood(even peat moss, but that is a different subject) to heat and to cook. So again, you are missing the entire point that coal, or fossil fuels are only a couple hundred years old, but use of renewable energy, like planting trees to then be burned, has been used for 100s of thousands of years.

No see, you miss the point , I KNEW I was wrong in the 1st statement ( about coal ) and you " corrected " me ,,,,,,,,, and You were wrong ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

[going_home]

What brand electric vehicle do you own Douglas ?

[Nobody]

What brand electric vehicle do you own Douglas ?

Oh no. The ultimate gotcha question that I will slate any talk of differing opinion and facts... what am I to do???? Trying to get me to say I don't practice what I preach, when I am just telling you the facts of the matter.

Except that what I drive has no bearing on the simple fact that ALL the major auto manufacturers are expanding their hybrid, and electric car lines and shrinking their ICE vehicles. Newer and better technologies are being pursued by them to improve not only range, but power output and accessibility. The infrastructure to charge those vehicles is ever increasing making it more viable in the more built up urban areas. That is a fact. That is something that is coming and growing every year.

So what I drive now doesn't matter. In .y area, charging stations are not common. Where I work is not conducive to an electric car. That can change in 5 or 10 years. So you can finger point and cry all you want. The world is changing, whether you like it or not.

[going_home]

Yep, I'm taking that as a 12 sentence no.

Just like I thought.

Speak no more on these subjects until you are a participant, then you can talk, until then, silence is golden.....