So...How's it going?

[maniacmechanic]

Did we really need another nobody ? I guess it's 2 against the masses now ,,,,,,

[Nobody]

Did we really need another nobody ? I guess it's 2 against the masses now ,,,,,,

There can be 2 people that appear to be on the same side but are distinct from one another. Though, we have not had a chance to formally talk, I know what he is saying and will approach things from a different viewpoint, but not one that hinders his post/opinion/fact based post.

But on the other side, you can swap in and out your posts with going_home, Loguzzzzzzo, Tuna, etc and so forth because the most sheepish ones are always the finger pointers. You point out because you are what you castigate.

Sucks when you hold a mirror up and it's you looking back

[CitsejaMkraDehT]

Did we really need another nobody ? I guess it's 2 against the masses now ,,,,,,

You guys remind me of the game lemmings.

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Nobody and I certainly have different opinions on topics, and it really goes to show how warped reality is for you guys.

Maybe actually critically think for a second and wonder why your posts aren't any different than the rest of the other people in here. There's a wide range of political view points. You guys just magically believe all the same thing? Sounds like a brainwashed cult.


Let Nobody pick a topic next and I'll likely share my difference of opinion between him and I.

[Pyrate Jim]

Not that I play video games that much anymore but I'm pretty sure those twitch streamers have far out paced your income and everyone else's here so clearly they are onto something but hey if making automag parts for pennies is your thing, don't let me stop ya.

Many of those twitch streamers would be confused by a bumper jack, much less a lathe set-up to produce something actually useable. Much like politicians, there's no substance ~ Nothing you can hold in your hand and measure to say if it's correct. So, they make content instead of product for money and that's the measure you choose to run with.

This guy, though...

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCuDv5p8E-evaRSh542hDV5g/community?lb=UgkxYeV5mhZcaVZeu1CgX0z50gcACzCIOFTH

Really? I thought "journalism" was supposed to be neutral, reporting both sides of an issue. Perhaps I was wrong, but I don't think so.

[Loguzzzzzz]

You may think you're a centrist but you are most certainly not.

I speak in generalities? Since when? I literally drilled down into far more information than you did with mishandling classified information.

You're just now stating that both parties are dirty after covering for Trump's mishandling of classified information among his other faults? If you actually truly believe that you'd be pissed off but you're not. Stop being disingenuous.

Yeah I realize that government is vital to a functioning society. Education, emergency services, regulating businesses, judicial system, infrastructure .... I assume you've never used any of these services and if so please write a check for the entire bill.

Now I going to blow your mind.

I voted for Obama first term. I was very disappointed with my parties handling of a few things, like Bill Clinton's entire presidency being hampered by Congress. I was hoping for real change. That didn't happen so I didn't vote for him the second time because he didn't do a lot of the things he promised.

I am Pro Choice. It would not be my choice and wasn't when my youngest daughter was born 8 years ago. Mind you I have a 36 year old son and a 33 year old daughter. My woman friend got pregnant and we opted to have the baby. I was 59 when this occurred. This should prove that I have precedence.

So yeah, I am not the extreme right wing conservative you think I am....

[Nobody]

Now I going to blow your mind.

I voted for Obama first term. I was very disappointed with my parties handling of a few things, like Bill Clinton's entire presidency being hampered by Congress. I was hoping for real change. That didn't happen so I didn't vote for him the second time because he didn't do a lot of the things he promised.

I am Pro Choice. It would not be my choice and wasn't when my youngest daughter was born 8 years ago. Mind you I have a 36 year old son and a 33 year old daughter. My woman friend got pregnant and we opted to have the baby. I was 59 when this occurred. This should prove that I have precedence.

So yeah, I am not the extreme right wing conservative you think I am....

Well, you are correct. Obama did promise a lot of changes, road that promise to re-election. But when you look deeper than the surface of his terms, you get to the real reasons why he was unable to fulfill those promises.

1) obamacare. Let's take an old GOP program for universal healthcare, tweak it for the times, and use the idea of bipartisan support of getting healthcare for all. We'll, McConnell said no. As, in normal politics, the red wave came after the Democrats won POTUS and stymied everything and anything to not let Obama have as successful a 2nd term. So was it his fault?
2) SCOTUS appointment. An opening in SCOTUS happened and McConnell held up appointments as an outgoing president should not have right to fill the position. One which was 10 months left in his term, which makes the ramming of Coney-Barrett even more egregious since mail in ballots where already sent. But did the GOP stick to any consistency? Nope
3) he was black. Not to say that racism played a part, but how can you say that it wasn't? If you want any indication just look at how Lilly white the GOP is, or look at how many are token blacks in the party.
4) while your choice is yours to have your last child, the party you support doesn't want to give you a choice. While leaving it up to the state is exactly like the question of slavery. Why should women have the choice in some states but not in the others? Why should thr government even come close to poking their nose in my or anyone's business? I was told the GOP was the party of personal freedoms? Your story of that, well, I was told something slightly different. But it is not any of my business. You made a choice, but other people had theirs taken away and that is wrong.

So, John, stop being so disingenuous. Because what you did in the past, only brings bigger questions to how you act and vote today.

[Pyrate Jim]

My, oh my.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/harris-in-driver-s-seat-for-presidential-nomination-biden-endorses-her/ar-BB1qn8VG?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=DCTS&cvid=6c984ea6dcae4b15bbc7432dcf476ded&ei=9

https://www.msn.com/en-us/video/news/biden-endorses-harris-after-he-drops-out-of-race/vi-BB1qne4w?ocid=msedgdhp

What are the poor Dems going to do now?

Edit to add:
And this one

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/stop-panicking-replacing-biden-on-ballots-isn-t-a-problem/ar-BB1qnbIW?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=DCTS&cvid=f5bba80792d94fd4994ad1f44cf9bbf1&ei=10

This in particular;

Another concern that has been raised is that the party could be open to litigation for disregarding the results of the primary elections. However, this misunderstands the role of state-run primary elections in the presidential nomination process. The Republican and Democratic parties are not required, and can not be required, to use the primaries at all. The primaries are, in effect, a nonbinding straw poll run by state governments. It is only through the party’s internal rules, as a private organization, that primaries are used to allocate convention delegates among the candidates seeking the nomination.

We have already seen both parties decide to ignore state primaries in this election. Democrats did so in New Hampshire, which held its primary too early and out of turn according to the party’s newly adopted schedule. Republicans did the same in Nevada, spurning the state’s primary election in favor of a caucus administered by the party. This presents no legal problem because political parties, in deciding whom to nominate and how, are engaged in their own freedom of speech and association, fully protected by the First Amendment. The Supreme Court has firmly ruled state governments have no power to impose any requirements on how the party conventions function or whom they may choose to nominate.

That's Democracy, is it? Give the citizens a choice in a nationwide vote and dismiss it as "non binding" when "the Party" changes it's opinion.

[CitsejaMkraDehT]

That's Democracy, is it? Give the citizens a choice in a nationwide vote and dismiss it as "non binding" when "the Party" changes it's opinion.

Why would it not be? Just because there are only two major parties in the United States it doesn't mean they are legally bound by "elections".

Are you complaining about the parties? I'm not sure what your point is. The parties are not government entities.

Regardless the United States is a federal democratic republic, not a democracy.

[Pyrate Jim]

Regardless the United States is a federal democratic republic, not a democracy.

Classic example of ING-SOC doublethink and newspeak.
If it's not a democracy, then why is a "threat to Democracy" being shouted as some big dangerous problem?
If the parties are not Gov't entities, then what is Govt?
If the parties are not bound by elections, why is Joe Biden the President?

[CitsejaMkraDehT]

Classic example of ING-SOC doublethink and newspeak.
If it's not a democracy, then why is a "threat to Democracy" being shouted as some big dangerous problem?
If the parties are not Gov't entities, then what is Govt?
If the parties are not bound by elections, why is Joe Biden the President?

"A threat to democracy" is a problem regardless of political affiliation. I'm not interested in re-hashing things about Donald Trump and his supreme court decision regarding January 6 but if you don't consider that a threat to democracy I'm not sure what to tell you. (Ignore January 6, I'm only talking about the ruling from the supreme court)

The parties are just a body of people who are organized as an entity to run for office. The government is what actually makes the policies (i.e those ELECTED officials). Would you consider the green party a government entity? Of course not. You could have an Automags.org political party and run/vote on party lines if you have enough money/support behind you.

The electoral college elects the President and the electoral college is electing based off what the voters they represent want. You're confusing the actual election with the RNC and DNC elections.

No doubt both the major parties are rotten to the core but no one actually cares to change things. I have coworkers who complain about people protesting stating "don't these people have jobs, don't these people have anything better to do, blah blah blah". One is pretty hard core republican and another borders socialism and both of them are useless sacks of **** at work.

As George Carlin famously put it. It's not the politicians who suck, it's the American people who suck.

[Loguzzzzzz]

Well, you are correct. Obama did promise a lot of changes, road that promise to re-election. But when you look deeper than the surface of his terms, you get to the real reasons why he was unable to fulfill those promises.

1) obamacare. Let's take an old GOP program for universal healthcare, tweak it for the times, and use the idea of bipartisan support of getting healthcare for all. We'll, McConnell said no. As, in normal politics, the red wave came after the Democrats won POTUS and stymied everything and anything to not let Obama have as successful a 2nd term. So was it his fault?
2) SCOTUS appointment. An opening in SCOTUS happened and McConnell held up appointments as an outgoing president should not have right to fill the position. One which was 10 months left in his term, which makes the ramming of Coney-Barrett even more egregious since mail in ballots where already sent. But did the GOP stick to any consistency? Nope
3) he was black. Not to say that racism played a part, but how can you say that it wasn't? If you want any indication just look at how Lilly white the GOP is, or look at how many are token blacks in the party.
4) while your choice is yours to have your last child, the party you support doesn't want to give you a choice. While leaving it up to the state is exactly like the question of slavery. Why should women have the choice in some states but not in the others? Why should thr government even come close to poking their nose in my or anyone's business? I was told the GOP was the party of personal freedoms? Your story of that, well, I was told something slightly different. But it is not any of my business. You made a choice, but other people had theirs taken away and that is wrong.

So, John, stop being so disingenuous. Because what you did in the past, only brings bigger questions to how you act and vote today.

I am not being disingenuous. you seem to want to lump anyone that doesn't think like you and align with your perspective as far right wing lunatics. Why don't you STOP that.

I happen to live in Komifornication. The return of the abortion rights to the state level had no effect on the women that live here. so move to a place where you are more aligned with the views and policies. Don't move somewhere else because the cost of living is cheaper than where you are at and then try to change it. Which is why people HATE Californians and New Yorkers and probably you New Jersey people moving to their state. Don't believe me, just ask people. I happen to personally know people that were leaving this state (because if it moves any more further LEFT it will break off an sink into the Pacific) and had to stop telling people they were from here to get real estate agents to show them houses.

You're correct, My daughter's Mother and I chose not to KILL a fetus. We have a wonderful little girl because of it.

[maniacmechanic]

the electoral college is electing based off what the voters they represent want
This is Not a True statement

[Nobody]

I am not being disingenuous. you seem to want to lump anyone that doesn't think like you and align with your perspective as far right wing lunatics. Why don't you STOP that. if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, then it'sa duck. You see, its not that i lump everyone who disagrees with me, into one category. It is the fact that everyone here that supports the GOP is cut from the same loaf. All of your messagesare made by one voice, so you are all interchangeable, and i have a hard time remembering who actually wrote what.CitsejaMkraDehT has actually pointed that out. So how are you all different? Put simply, if you cannot see for the faft that someone broke the laws of this country, then why should i worry about your feelings when you can'trecognizepure fact?

I happen to live in Komifornication. The return of the abortion rights to the state level had no effect on the women that live here. so move to a place where you are more aligned with the views and policies. just like the jews in 1930s Germany... Don't move somewhere else because the cost of living is cheaper than where you are at and then try to change it.cost of living?ummm, you can change the laws. No one said they are written in stone, so if you and the many can make change happen. Which is why people HATE Californians and New Yorkers and probably you New Jersey people moving to their state. Don't believe me, just ask people. i don'thave to ask people, i live it. The area is chock full of summer/vacation homes. Plqces where people used to live, either forced out or had to much, sell and move away. Homes bought up by people who don'tlive here year round. And the numbers of locals shrinks as homes are priced out of reach.I happen to personally know people that were leaving this state (because if it moves any more further LEFT it will break off an sink into the Pacific) and had to stop telling people they were from here to get real estate agents to show them houses. funny how you blame a political party for all the wrongs. Here is one eye opening California law change and ramification. You and many people blame them liberals for their horrible 2A gun laws, but it was actually the republicans thag set down the laws that startedthe process. Yup, the republicans. You see, as the blqck panthers where being harrassed by the police for being black, they read the laws and started to arm themselves, legally. Well the police and others didn'tlike it, so they changed the laws to stop them from arming. 50 years later, you have the result. Funny huh?.

you seem to be missing the point, the woods through the trees moment. As citizens, why should one state have rights better than another? Likewise, why should anyone have to travel to get healthcare? Why should the government tell someone what they wluld be doing legally with their bodies, when the government shouldn't be? You know, personal freedoms? But what the GOP did was, challenge and then change those laws that either gave freedoms that they didn't like and then doubled down on in an act of punishment. Not very christian is it?

[Loguzzzzzz]

you seem to be missing the point, the woods through the trees moment. As citizens, why should one state have rights better than another? Likewise, why should anyone have to travel to get healthcare? Why should the government tell someone what they wluld be doing legally with their bodies, when the government shouldn't be? You know, personal freedoms? But what the GOP did was, challenge and then change those laws that either gave freedoms that they didn't like and then doubled down on in an act of punishment. Not very christian is it?

I guess you forgot, this is the UNITED States of America. This country is a union of "autonomous" states.

So much wrong here there is no point in responding...

I'll just sit here and laughing.

[Loguzzzzzz]

In case you didn't know this, smoking pot is still a federal crime, maybe you should stop doing that, since Federal Law is more important to you than state laws are.
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