Everything You Know About Star Wars Is Wrong...

[danEboy]

Found this convincing.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/001/248ipzbt.asp

Looking forward to your comments.




Dan

[Mega Man]

I beg to differ...............

The Rebels are the heros because they are the ones who represent what the Glactic Senate once was (the good one inwhich we do not see in Episode I or any, the one spoken of by Senator Palpentine). The Empire did originate from the old Glactic Senate and Republic but since Palpentine was granted huge power in Attack of The Clones we are never shown until EPisode III if he really does give up his immediate extremely high powers or not, the Republic is infact becoming a dictatorship. Also another point is that Anakin is the choosen one, although he becomes Darth Vader and has to have help from his sone Luke to turn back to the Light side of the force he none the less kills The leader of the Empire and the Master of the Sith at the same time, he also ceases to become Darth Vader and once again becomes Anakin Skywalker thus killing the apprentice of the Sith wich eliminates the Sith since the Sith is only a master and an apprentice who harness the dark side of the force. The Sith are the ones who are responsible for the Empire and since they are eliminated and the Death Star destryed the Rebel Alligness can restore the Old Republic.

*******EDIT****** I know this has alot of mispelled words but I'm not even going to bother.................

[FooTemps]

Wow... I wish I could write that well... It does make a lot of sense...

[FooTemps]

Re: I beg to differ...............

Originally posted by Mag_Man_2000
The Rebels are the heros because they are the ones who represent what the Glactic Senate once was (the good one inwhich we do not see in Episode I or any, the one spoken of by Senator Palpentine). The Empire did originate from the old Glactic Senate and Republic but since Palpentine was granted huge power in Attack of The Clones we are never shown until EPisode III if he really does give up his immediate extremely high powers or not, the Republic is infact becoming a dictatorship. Also another point is that Anakin is the choosen one, although he becomes Darth Vader and has to have help from his sone Luke to turn back to the Light side of the force he none the less kills The leader of the Empire and the Master of the Sith at the same time, he also ceases to become Darth Vader and once again becomes Anakin Skywalker thus killing the apprentice of the Sith wich eliminates the Sith since the Sith is only a master and an apprentice who harness the dark side of the force. The Sith are the ones who are responsible for the Empire and since they are eliminated and the Death Star destryed the Rebel Alligness can restore the Old Republic.

*******EDIT****** I know this has alot of mispelled words but I'm not even going to bother.................

But wasn't the clone war started because a group didn't like the galactic senate? If they restore the old senate back then it would just happen over agian...

[Havoc_online]

He gives a lot of good points that could be argued from both sides. The Empire wanted "order". The Senate didnt want war. The Emperor himself said that the senate didnt function anymore. Hmmmm...Either way, even before reading that, I liked the empire a lot, I think that if all the movies were redone flip-flopped, we would hate the jedi and love the empire, lol.

[Mega Man]

Foo, the Seperatists you are reffering to were rebelling against the NEW Republic, the one I refer to and Senator Palpentine refered to was the Old Republic...............Old Republic=GOOD, New Republic=BAD

[Timmee]

I read that, and felt I had to comment. there is irrifutable evidence that the Empire was evil. They destroyed a planet. Granted, there may have been a strong Rebel force on Alderaan, but there were undoubtedly people loyal to the Empire there as well. Those people died as well as any rebels on the planet. Let's not mention attempted xenocide when the Emporer commanded the commander of the second Death Star to fire on Endor.

Also, take into account the names of the Imperial ships and space stations. The Super Star Destroyer that Vader commands is called Executor. I seriously doubt that and organization as "benevolent" as the Empire would have a ship with that name. Also, let's not forget the 2 Death Stars. Space stations with a cannon powerful enough to destroy planets?

And speading of Vader, he had a nasty habit of crushing the throats of anyone who screwed up. How is one supposed to learn from a mistake when their neck is snapped by the force.

In conclusion, that guy has his facts all wrong. Disagree with me all you want, but I stand by my analysis.

[oldsoldier]

All good points...but to comment on the naming of ships. Throughout history, warfare uses many different ruses to affect fear into opposing armies. The Norse capitalized on sea dragon legends..the huns turned an army of 20,000 christian soldiers around by creating a fire breathing "dragon". Giving ships fearful names is just another way of using this method. You dont name ships "SS butterfly" and send it off into battle...there is pride among those who serve on them. Anyway, you get the point.
Also, on the topic of rebels; again, look to our history. Typically, where a rebel group overthrows the current governing body, oftentimes the nation is plunged into further turmoil. This is the result of several things; first, most rebel leaders dont have a background in politics. Second, they achieved what they want through violence...lesson learned? violence gets you what you want. Third, a violent overthrow of a government leaves both a vacuum to be filled, and a large group of deposed people...both of which have the potential to commit further violence.
well, enough rambling. I just wanted to point out a few things.

[FutureMagOwner]

Originally posted by Mag_Man_2000
Foo, the Seperatists you are reffering to were rebelling against the NEW Republic, the one I refer to and Senator Palpentine refered to was the Old Republic...............Old Republic=GOOD, New Republic=BAD

not sure if someone else mentioned this but the old republic(aka just b4 the empire) was the bad one the new was the good one and the old old one was good

because after the old one fell they made a new one(im talking after luke killed vadar)

[Jonno06]

actually,episode 1 is supposed to be with the OLD senate,and the other episodes,(jedi strikes back,ect)have the NEW senate,b/c episode 1 was supposed to be before the other episodes

[PaInTbALL zAcH]

i'm as big a star wars geek as the next guy but c'mon guys. They are movies. Enjoy them. To me it just sounds like the fall of communism and that there will be chaos for a time until a new republic is formed which then will cause everything over agian

[Mega Man]

Thier is ONLY 2 Reoublics ever shown in the Star Wars Sagas, the Old Republic (good, not seen just mentioned) and the New Republic (bad, seen in the prequals), the Others you two are reffering to are known as the Empire, NOT the Republic...........................

[obsolete898]

The Empire also enslaves entire species (Wookies and Nagory). Also the only non-human in the emperial navy was Grand-Admiral Thrawn. So they not only had slaves but also were completely prejudice against non-humans.



Personally I love the Empire. Not for the reasons above but for other reasons. But to say that they are not evil is pretty foolish.

[RATM]

Originally posted by obsolete898
The Empire also enslaves entire species (Wookies and Nagory). Also the only non-human in the emperial navy was Grand-Admiral Thrawn. So they not only had slaves but also were completely prejudice against non-humans.



Personally I love the Empire. Not for the reasons above but for other reasons. But to say that they are not evil is pretty foolish.

Now does that not touch close to home. Does the word African American mean anything to you? And in regard to the post above stating they built the death star which could destroy a whole planet and that adds to the fact they are evil. We basically have done the same thing with nukes. Also, to the person who wanted to argue that there were supporters of the Empire on Alderaan, what about our current situation in Afghanistan. In liberating the people we've killed innocent bystanders who have supported us. After all, you must crack a few eggs to make an omelet. I've always liked the Empire(the look of the stormtroopers being my favorite thing) but this article has made a lot of sense and I totally agree with the guy.

[Ni cD]

First post in a long time...here goes!

I want to be a Jedi.