Ungodly high gas prices

**Smoke** · 01-31-2003, 10:18 AM

shartly, shartly, shartly....
I have proven my points, and that link backs them up. Also, I never said I was always right, I'm just saying to let someone else who has infromation speak his mind. ALSO, I'm not too earger to prove you wrong, it's just I was trying to run a thread about how much gas prices are, and then you gotta clog it with your massive essay replies. YES, you were right READ WHAT I'VE POSTED!!!

Point taken,

lol.
Also I know as much about Iraq as anybody else, I only watch the news every day. They are tip toe-ing through the tulips with us, and eventually they are gonna get burned, but as of now, the UN has not found any hardcore evidence to convince the world that he is a major threat. Saddam enjoys messing with people. And no, I wasn't trying to insinuate that comment about natural resources, I was just bringing up another point.
Just calm down!! I'm trying to have fun, run my thread, and not have to spend my time debating over an issue that really isn't worth debating over, because both sides are right no matter what! I say prices are high because of environmental reason, and because of the oil market situation. You say they are high because of the oil market situation, and because of the environmental reason. So, why are we still discussing? Oh, by the way, the way you won't let things go really makes you seem obnoxious.

**Smoke** · 01-31-2003, 10:20 AM

Originally posted by shartley

I SAID SORRY ABOUT THE BOO-YA THING!!! MY GOD!! LET IT GO ALREADY!! QUIT CLOGGING MY THREAD WITH THIS CRAP!!

**shartley** · 01-31-2003, 10:34 AM

**beam** · 01-31-2003, 10:36 AM

Sorry for getting off track here....I just want the post count. hehe

But I wonder how many people really understand that UN inspectors should NOT have to SEARCH for ANYTHING!

The weapons are to be laid out for them to verify or evidence is to be GIVEN to prove the weapons have been destroyed.

Again, sorry about the sidetrack. To get back to the point...

How many people have an Ethanol blended fuel in their state and do you use it?

**Jack_Dubious** · 01-31-2003, 10:46 AM

Originally posted by automagfreek

I thought and thought about "why are we doing this?".

Why do you think....its to stop the worldwide spread of Communism!!.......oh wait...that was Vietnam....

JDub

**Smoke** · 01-31-2003, 10:49 AM

Originally posted by shartley

If there is one thing I hate, it's sarcasm. If you weren't so closed minded, you would see that I am bringing up valid points, you just refuse to acknowledge them. Um, how was I acting again? Hmmmm...
I post valid remarks backed by an international corporation, and you pass it off as nothing. I agree on an issue, it dosen't even register. So, let me say it real slow
I...AGREE...ON...THE..SAME...STUFF...YOU...SAID.
*sigh* Oh well, this will go on forever, seeing as you refuse to accept anyone's VALID arguments. So far, you haven't backed up your statements, because I've done it for you! We've said the exact same things, except in a different order. That link also says the same stuff you say, and I agree on it. What more can I say.....
Oh, if you think I'm wrong, then email the IEA and tell them to change their site, cuz that's where the info came from.

**FutureMagOwner** · 01-31-2003, 11:00 AM

yeesh i havent seen a single car thread thats had a giant arguement.

**shartley** · 01-31-2003, 11:13 AM

**Vendetta** · 01-31-2003, 11:26 AM

I did not personally quote sources to back my positions because they are well documented truths. All you have to do is turn on your TV and go to any News Show talking about it.

Shartley I respect your views eventhough I usally don't agree, but if you think what we get on the news is truth we've got some problems.

The one "truth" that we know is that this administration is the most secret ever. They are more tight lipped and dispence the disinformation more the the Nixon regime. The truth is not out there.

**Smoke** · 01-31-2003, 11:39 AM

I never wanted you to change your personal beliefs or opinons. I just wanted you to accept mine. That's what being open minded is. I NEVER change my opinions for anybody, even if most people think I am wrong. I will never reverse myself, I always stand true to my words. We're both good debaters, and we could do this all day.
Also, the thing with Iraq is that, yes Vendetta is right. NOBODY knows what's going on! Seriously, unless you work at the Pentagon or White House, you know nothing. And that sucks. We SHOULD know more, but that's another issue.
And yes, I too back myself up with fact, because I use the same tactics as you: See the fool, bring the facts, kill his argument. Neither one of us can do that unfortunatly, because wether you see it or not, we agree on this issue. It's like me saying that the sky is blue, then you saying, "well, when it's not cloudy, the sky is blue" SAME THING! In mathematics, it's called the distributive property (I'm pretty sure that's the property, my math sucks!). You can change the order of things, and the outcome is the same.
Oh, BTW, I've never pissed out of a moving pickup truck, I might have to try that...

(humor..no sarcasm...)

**Vendetta** · 01-31-2003, 11:47 AM

I NEVER change my opinions for anybody, even if most people think I am wrong. I will never reverse myself, I always stand true to my words.

Never is a long time. Of course you should stand up to your beliefs, but you need to be open to change them. We have a name for those that don't- radical fundamentalists! They see their fundamental beliefs as unwavering, and they most convert everyone else to those beliefs. I'm not saying you are one. I just saying lets stay flexible. It better for everyone

**manike** · 01-31-2003, 11:48 AM

Gas or 'Petrol' here is about $1.35... per litre!!!

So that's approx $5.01 per US gallon...

**Smoke** · 01-31-2003, 11:49 AM

Originally posted by Vendetta

Never is a long time. Of course you should stand up to your beliefs, but you need to be open to change them. We have a name for those that don't- radical fundamentalists! They see their fundamental beliefs as unwavering, and they most convert everyone else to those beliefs. I'm not saying you are one. I just saying lets stay flexible. It better for everyone

AMEN. Well, what I meant was I don't like others influencing my beliefs. I like to think for myself. Good call Vendetta!

**shartley** · 01-31-2003, 11:52 AM

Originally posted by Vendetta
Shartley I respect your views eventhough I usally don't agree, but if you think what we get on the news is truth we've got some problems.
The one "truth" that we know is that this administration is the most secret ever. They are more tight lipped and dispence the disinformation more the the Nixon regime. The truth is not out there.

Originally posted by automagfreek
Oh, BTW, I've never pissed out of a moving pickup truck, I might have to try that... (humor..no sarcasm...)

**Smoke** · 01-31-2003, 11:52 AM

Originally posted by manike
Gas or 'Petrol' here is about $1.35... per litre!!!

So that's approx $5.01 per US gallon...

EEK Son!!!!! Well, prices dropped down to $1.59 in Racine. WOW. Big deal. Still a bit too high.

Ungodly high gas prices

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