DEA Refuses to Take Responsible in Teen Shooting

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  • shartley
    paintball player
    • Mar 2001
    • 9169

    #31
    Originally posted by punkncat
    To say that the rape of children is justifiable because of allowing yourself to be friends with a drug dealer is wrong on so many levels.
    My last post mysteriously didn't make it into the thread, so I won't even try to recap....
    But it is sad to see you so affected by the anti drug propaganda to even think such a thing.

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    • punkncat
      One foot less
      • Feb 2003
      • 5841

      #32
      Not trying to twist anything.Just my take on" Maybe if your friends didn't allow a known drug dealer in their house, their kids wouldn't have gotten raped. Yes, I blame your friends. That is just poor parenting."
      Some people value friendship inspite of their friends shortcomings and vices.
      Simply put , if a little common sense had been used by the authorities , instead of the gung ho , lets make the word safer by locking up all the druggies attitude....and had listened to the guy when he said "these are my drugs and they are not involved" then none of this would have happened.Maybe if you had read through and seen that these people neither failed a drug test , nor was any amount of drug found in their home.....
      I wish I could say this was a fabrication.It would be nice to dismiss this as a biased story about why things should be different.Truth be told in the drug war the solution is as bad as the problem.
      But as you say , if I am wrong ,I can live with that.Some people will never recognise how unfortuante this whole "war on drugs" has become for everyone,taxpayers and victims of the system alike.

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      • Albinonewt
        Team Icky Forest
        • Apr 2003
        • 2456

        #33
        Originally posted by punkncat
        To say that the rape of children is justifiable because of allowing yourself to be friends with a drug dealer is wrong on so many levels.
        My last post mysteriously didn't make it into the thread, so I won't even try to recap....
        But it is sad to see you so affected by the anti drug propaganda to even think such a thing.
        Nobody said it was justifiable. What we did say is it was universally stupid of your friend to allow a drug dealer into his home and not expect consequences. He has to be smarter then that. He has kids to take care of. Say a rival dealer decided to pop this dealer while he was at your friend's house and one of his kids got his by accident. What happens when one of the kids goes into his jacket one day and find some drugs and overdoses not knowing what he was chewing on? You friend should have thought things out better. He was children to protect, and exposing them to that isn't protecting them.
        Or better yet, why don't you kill yourself. No, really, die. Drop dead, don't leave a note, in fact burn your house while your little ego is stuck in a bench vice so that you'll also incenerate yourslef and everything you own with it. Because that's all you're worth. You're not even wirh thte time it'll take for the house to burn down, so just kill yourself. You're a waste of space. You are nothing, you always will be nothing. Don't leave a note, you're not worth the ink. - Tyger

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        • Thordic
          AFTICA
          • May 2001
          • 5986

          #34
          Originally posted by punkncat
          ...and had listened to the guy when he said "these are my drugs and they are not involved" then none of this would have happened...
          Yes, because drug dealers are notoriously honest and can believed 100%.

          If your friends value their friends more than they value the life and safety of their children, then maybe they shouldn't have had any kids in the first place.

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          • Automag88
            Registered User
            • Aug 2002
            • 145

            #35
            It's funny how so many people classify CNN as a credible news source.

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            • 1stdeadeye
              Still around????
              • Jun 2002
              • 8501

              #36
              Originally posted by punkncat
              To say that the rape of children is justifiable because of allowing yourself to be friends with a drug dealer is wrong on so many levels.
              My last post mysteriously didn't make it into the thread, so I won't even try to recap....
              But it is sad to see you so affected by the anti drug propaganda to even think such a thing.


              Where do you see anyone is saying the rape of a child is okay! I am saying it is as much the parents fault as the perps for putting the child in that situation.

              Associating with a known criminal is just plain stupid. Drugs, gun runners, hitmen, etc... Any criminal!

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              • Albinonewt
                Team Icky Forest
                • Apr 2003
                • 2456

                #37
                Originally posted by Automag88
                It's funny how so many people classify CNN as a credible news source.
                It's ok. Its frankly so mainstream and so world wide known that even though they show some bias towards paticular issues they are typically more or less factually correct.
                Or better yet, why don't you kill yourself. No, really, die. Drop dead, don't leave a note, in fact burn your house while your little ego is stuck in a bench vice so that you'll also incenerate yourslef and everything you own with it. Because that's all you're worth. You're not even wirh thte time it'll take for the house to burn down, so just kill yourself. You're a waste of space. You are nothing, you always will be nothing. Don't leave a note, you're not worth the ink. - Tyger

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                • NeoMoses
                  Registered User
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 27

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Cptn_Hemroid
                  she was breaking the law driving the car... I dont see a problem.
                  The last time I checked, the death penalty was not a punishment for underage driving. Why don't you see the problem with a dead 14 year old girl?

                  The truth is, the american public will never know the truth about what happened that terrible night. We'll hear the police's story and the family's story, and as always, the truth will lie somewhere inbetween. As I recall, we're talking about the United States of America, a country that was founded on the basis of fairness and equality to all.

                  This girl was killed by representatives of our government, representatives who have sworn to uphold the law and the due process. Obviously, the system did not work in this case. Although there's likely more to this story than originally posted in the first story, it still is not correct to say that "the girl had it coming." Remember this, all police, FBI, and DEA agents are humans, and make the same mistakes as many other people. When their mistakes kill innocent people, there needs to be a thorough investigation, and steps taken to ensure that it doesn't happen again.
                  In elementary school, in case of fire you have to line up quietly in a single file line from smallest to tallest. What is the logic? Do tall people burn slower?

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                  • Albinonewt
                    Team Icky Forest
                    • Apr 2003
                    • 2456

                    #39
                    Put simply.

                    They moved on who they thought was the suspect. They barricaded the road. The little girl, who should have never been driving, panicked and ran the barricade. The agents felt threatened and returned fire against this hostile act killing the driver.

                    Where they justified? I'm willing to bet the inquiry finds that they were justified. Does it make it right? No, it doesn't. She shouldn't have been killed. Being killed is not an appropriate punishment for underage driving. It was a mistake, but a mistake that will probably hold up under scrutiny.
                    Or better yet, why don't you kill yourself. No, really, die. Drop dead, don't leave a note, in fact burn your house while your little ego is stuck in a bench vice so that you'll also incenerate yourslef and everything you own with it. Because that's all you're worth. You're not even wirh thte time it'll take for the house to burn down, so just kill yourself. You're a waste of space. You are nothing, you always will be nothing. Don't leave a note, you're not worth the ink. - Tyger

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                    • shartley
                      paintball player
                      • Mar 2001
                      • 9169

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Albinonewt
                      Put simply.

                      They moved on who they thought was the suspect. They barricaded the road. The little girl, who should have never been driving, panicked and ran the barricade. The agents felt threatened and returned fire against this hostile act killing the driver.

                      Where they justified? I'm willing to bet the inquiry finds that they were justified. Does it make it right? No, it doesn't. She shouldn't have been killed. Being killed is not an appropriate punishment for underage driving. It was a mistake, but a mistake that will probably hold up under scrutiny.

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