That time of life

[1stdeadeye]

Originally posted by Collegeboy


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1de, how do you like the banking industry. One of the more interesting ideas I come across in my economic studies is banking, especially the international banking part.

With all of the consolidation in our industry, it is becoming tougher to break into the decent paying jobs.

As for the international banking part, a lot of major banks are for the most part scaling back. Citibank and Fleet took multi-billion dollar baths when Argentina fell apart. Fleet alone charged off 2.1 Billion in Argentinian related costs. Brazil is now tetering and you have that whack job in Venezuela to consider too.

My two cents.

[Albinonewt]

Originally posted by Collegeboy
Your opinion on my person is not needed in this type of discussion.

Sure it is, and without any kind of flaming I started to offer mine. Real life doesn't exist in a vacuum. The choices you make will have to be different then the ones I made, or anyone else here. As to what future I would pursue if I were you I stand by the answer college professor. The reasons I would choose that for you are:

1) You do have a legitimate respect for college and what it can provide to people
2) You seem to enjoy teaching and making people understand your point of view (which is what most professors do, which I have a problem with, but that's not the discussion I want to have right now).
3) It would leave you plenty of time to pursue your other interests and would allow for some cross studies

The reasons I do not see you as a diplomat or a intelligence officer:

1) You are hyper opinionated and very reluctant to see other people's side of the story. You refuse to give an inch on anything no matter how questionable it is. This is not a good quality for a person that wants to be a diplomat or an intelligence officer. Your inability to compromise would cost your career
2) You do not possess a deep and profound love for this country, something I think everyone that serves the country should have. If you don't love your nation, no matter who's in charge of it, how can you serve it?

And I don't think the private sector is cut out for you because:

1) I don't envision you as the type that takes orders too well. I mentioned you being over opinionated and unwilling to budge before, and that becomes a real a problem when starting out in business, as you have bosses you have to report to.
2) Personality is a big part of advancing in corporate structures, and the ability to play "the game". Your confrontational personality and rather unconventional viewpoints will be a big hindrance to you.

Hope it helps. You won't listen, and you'll probably give me flak for trying to help, but I'm over it.

[graycie]

Originally posted by Collegeboy
Your opinion on my person is not needed in this type of discussion.

did i say anything about your "person", NO. so you must be misundertanding what i posted.

[Collegeboy]

Originally posted by graycie


did i say anything about your "person", NO. so you must be misundertanding what i posted.

I was making a broad statement about how people's opinions of my person do not pose any relevance to this thread. I didn't single you out.

ABN, again another example of not knowing someone until you meet them. You are wrong on about all of them.

[p8ntball1016]

Re: That time of life

Originally posted by Collegeboy

6. Or do as my parents, and advisors say and follow the family tradition and go into the intelligence field.

now that you told us, do you have to kill us?

[Albinonewt]

Originally posted by Collegeboy
ABN, again another example of not knowing someone until you meet them. You are wrong on about all of them.

If I don't know you, then how'd I know you'd say that.

Whatever CB. If you don't want advice then don't ask for it.

[Miscue]

Originally posted by Collegeboy
Your opinion on my person is not needed in this type of discussion. As I said I am asking for why you made your choice and do you like it. Your opinion of what you think I am, is about as helpful as your opinion of the sky right now. No one knows me, and can only tell what I am by a few posts on line, so all it does to post your views of me, is to try and push this thread further and further away from the topic, and another vial attempt to talk bad about me.

Well, I've been applying to IT and software engineering positions. I did not realize how long people can take just to respond to your app. It can sit there in HR for months, as I've discovered. So far, the only positions that acknowledge my existance have been govt. type stuff... where I suppose it is a policy to respond back. Those are also the only positions that have taken me in to interviews (besides one hospital position), because I believe the policy is if you meet the minimum requirements, you get an interview or testing.

Strangely, the only job that I supposedly will have and I'm waiting on is a supervisory position... I tested in the top 3 out of 60+ in June... but my background investigation is STILL not done. I just did my polygraph last week, which was very annoying.

EVERY interviewer thus far has patronized me, talking to me as if I am a kid. Smashing the objective, knowledge-based tests is what saved me from the oral portion. In one interview where this was blatant, I was able to listen to an interview before me because the door was not shut. The person going for the job had no business being there, but I was treated differently from her. The topic of conversation seems to always steer towards my recent graduation and lack of experience... which is crap for these entry level stuff because I paid for school by doing more than what these jobs would have me do.

Also, IMO they would ask totally retarded and irrelevant questions... and I have to wonder what their perceived answers to their open-ended BS questions were. In one interview, the dude obnoxiously correctly my right answer with his wrong answer... showing me three fingers on his hand. He asked at what OSI layers does TCP/IP work on. I told him 3, 4 , and 5. IP is 3, TCP and UDP etc. are 4, and the stack has provisions for establishing sessions, hence the TCP/IP session and socket programming.

This senior level dude corrected me with 3, and didn't listen to my explanation. He also asked how I would troubleshoot a busted Internet connection. I told him I would do the simplest task first, like ping another machine so I can check for connectivity on the local network and have an idea of where to look next.

He corrected me, and said I should follow the OSI layer model, starting at the physical layer. I'm like, that's freakin retarded. "Oops, my net is down! Let's crawl under my desk to see if it's plugged in! That didn't work, let's cable test!" I mean, that's retarded if you go through that process everytime. And, his boss AGREED with him. I have to think to myself... great... I'm trying to work with you bozos who get paid too much.

This whole job stuff to me is a bunch of crap that I don't want any part of... the longer you're there the more you realize the extent of how the organization is screwed up and the people except for a few... suck. I'll work somewhere to make a living, but I'll be working on business schemes while I'm there... and tell them to suck it when I come up with a money-making business if that happens... hopefully.

[1stdeadeye]

Hey Miscue,

Welcome to the real world!

You figured it out fast. I have the worlds best boss. He is an SVP, but should be an EVP. Our regional EVP and LOB Presidents are both dolts! I could do their job on CBs brains alone.

Politics is a huge part of it, you know it's not what you know, but who you blow!

Graycie,

LOL on you zinger, unless i misunderstood!

[Collegeboy]

Thanks Miscue. My friend is in the same position you are in but a few years back. He is graduating with a degree in computer science and is having trouble finding jobs where the people find his ways unconventional. It has almost made him give up on the idea of working with computers on the civilian market, and now he is thinking of joining the army.

ABN. Here is my question that I posed.

"I know a lot of people on this board have been in this same position. Probably not the same choices. But how did you, as a soon to graduate college student, decide on your next step in life."

graycie: Sorry if I posted in a way that would lead you to think that I was talking about you. I should have been more clearer in my posting.

[Collegeboy]

Originally posted by 1stdeadeye
I could do their job on CBs brains alone.

You can run the world on just the power in my brain.

[1stdeadeye]

Originally posted by Collegeboy


You can run the world on just the power in my brain.

The hamster on a treadmill comes to mind here. Maybe you could power a bicycle headlamp off your brain power, but I doubt it!

[shartley]

[p8ntball1016]

Originally posted by Collegeboy


You can run the world on just the power in my brain.

even though youre brain is runnin on fumes?

[Miscue]

Yup, it's a crappy time for people just starting off in computers. The .com crash screwed things up... all of a sudden you have way more people than available positions... and experienced people who lost jobs are willing to settle for lower/entry-level jobs... and then you gotta compete with that. Basically have to take whatever you can right now. When this IT job kicks in... it'll be good. I'll be one of the lucky ones... making more than I expected to... and with a take home vehicle. Just hope those bastiches are good on their word, but still looking for other stuff in the mean time. Until my E-Docs are signed... not counting on anything.

[banzaimf]

Originally posted by Albinonewt

1) You are hyper opinionated and very reluctant to see other people's side of the story. You refuse to give an inch on anything no matter how questionable it is. This is not a good quality for a person that wants to be a diplomat or an intelligence officer. Your inability to compromise would cost your career

Originally posted by CollegeBoy

ABN, again another example of not knowing someone until you meet them. You are wrong on about all of them.

He said about. That makes it a compromise. Note to CB, vial is what babies are grown in, vile is disgusting. Now back to reality.

Intel work can be the most disgusting, profane, stomach churning, ulcer inducing work in the world. On the flip side of that, you may find out that the country that you denigrate so often is far better than being lined up next to a hole in the ground and being executed because you live in the wrong village.

Miscue, You forgot to mention the recent trend in "Off Shoring" that is going on right now. I,hopefully, will be out of a job in time to get in some snowboard sason. Luckily, as a Unix geek, I feel pretty good about getting a job when I want one.