ACLU stomps on the Boy Scouts

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  • -Carnifex-
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    • Jan 2003
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    #46
    I'm not seeing how homosexuality is a bad influence. It's not like the guy is going to be talking to your children about how he sleeps with men.
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    • Sir_Brass
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      • Sep 2003
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      #47
      Originally posted by -Carnifex-
      I'm not seeing how homosexuality is a bad influence. It's not like the guy is going to be talking to your children about how he sleeps with men.
      You're missing the point. BSA promotes family values. Homosexuality does NOT fit in with family values as the BSA sees them. So, why should the BSA allow men who do not support what the BSA sees as an important part of family values, to be influences on the boys?

      It's like saying, "Well, this guy is open minded. WHo cares if he's a democrat, he can still be the Republican majority leader."
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      • shartley
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        • Mar 2001
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        #48
        Originally posted by p8ntball1016
        You DO realize that the goal of the American Civil Liberties Union is to protect our Bill of Rights, not destroy this nation.
        Originally posted by Sir_Brass
        You're missing the point. BSA promotes family values. Homosexuality does NOT fit in with family values as the BSA sees them. So, why should the BSA allow men who do not support what the BSA sees as an important part of family values, to be influences on the boys?

        It's like saying, "Well, this guy is open minded. WHo cares if he's a democrat, he can still be the Republican majority leader."

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        • FactsOfLife
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          • May 2002
          • 2504

          #49
          Originally posted by p8ntball1016
          You DO realize that the goal of the American Civil Liberties Union is to protect our Bill of Rights, not destroy this nation.
          Then answer me this ONE simple question.

          How many 2nd amendment cases have the ACLU defended in the last 50 years?

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          • -Carnifex-
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            • Jan 2003
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            #50
            Originally posted by Sir_Brass


            You're missing the point. BSA promotes family values. Homosexuality does NOT fit in with family values as the BSA sees them. So, why should the BSA allow men who do not support what the BSA sees as an important part of family values, to be influences on the boys?

            It's like saying, "Well, this guy is open minded. WHo cares if he's a democrat, he can still be the Republican majority leader."
            No, I'm not missing the point. I never said they didn't have any right to bar homosexuals. Hell, my comment wasn't even in reference to the boyscouts; it was in reference to rooster calling homosexual people bad influences.
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            • Sir_Brass
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              • Sep 2003
              • 736

              #51
              Originally posted by -Carnifex-


              No, I'm not missing the point. I never said they didn't have any right to bar homosexuals. Hell, my comment wasn't even in reference to the boyscouts; it was in reference to rooster calling homosexual people bad influences.
              Hate to tell you this, but that's one reason why gays are barred from being adult leaders. Just by living the lifestyle they do, they are being bad influences on the boys they are leading. They may be good people, but what kind of example is a Scoutmaster setting when he is not promoting something that the BSA feels very strongly about? I'm sure the boys' fathers would be even less happy about it as well.
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              • -Carnifex-
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                • Jan 2003
                • 1434

                #52
                Originally posted by Sir_Brass


                Hate to tell you this, but that's one reason why gays are barred from being adult leaders. Just by living the lifestyle they do, they are being bad influences on the boys they are leading. They may be good people, but what kind of example is a Scoutmaster setting when he is not promoting something that the BSA feels very strongly about? I'm sure the boys' fathers would be even less happy about it as well.
                I don't care about the Scouts. I was to know why people think homosexuals are bad influences.
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                • Restola
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                  • May 2001
                  • 2230

                  #53
                  Originally posted by FactsOfLife


                  Then answer me this ONE simple question.

                  How many 2nd amendment cases have the ACLU defended in the last 50 years?
                  lol...pwnt

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                  • Rooster
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                    • Oct 2000
                    • 1069

                    #54
                    "You DO realize that the goal of the American Civil Liberties Union is to protect our Bill of Rights, not destroy this nation."

                    The KKK has that as one of their goals too. Its easy to pretend to be rightous. The ACLU is perhaps the lowest form of life on this planet, save maybe PETA.

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                    • -Carnifex-
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                      • Jan 2003
                      • 1434

                      #55
                      And rabidly conservative / liberal people.

                      Edit: Anyone with a link to the story?
                      Last edited by -Carnifex-; 01-11-2004, 04:13 PM.
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