Your a great man GWB!

[impostal22]

Originally posted by 1stdeadeye




Uhm you are wrong. The networks are owned by large corporations, but most of the stations are affiliates and independently owned. Thus have their own editorial content, kind of like newspapers.

by "major news station" i meant the networks. did you really think i meant anything different?

[1stdeadeye]

Originally posted by impostal22


by "major news station" i meant the networks. did you really think i meant anything different?

So the 5 major news networks: ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX, CNN are owned by five mega corporations? Wow you know your math.

So you are saying that GE, NewsCorp, Disney, Time Warner, and Viacom own everything there is to own in America? Shhhh don't tell Exxon, Citigroup, General Motors, ADM, and the rest of the Dow or S&P about your revalation, they might get jealous.

[impostal22]

Originally posted by 1stdeadeye


So the 5 major news networks: ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX, CNN are owned by five mega corporations? Wow you know your math.

So you are saying that GE, NewsCorp, Disney, Time Warner, and Viacom own everything there is to own in America? Shhhh don't tell Exxon, Citigroup, General Motors, ADM, and the rest of the Dow or S&P about your revalation, they might get jealous.

ok, i won't

[Rooster]

"this is all very true (obviously), but the fact of the matter is that bush did some not-so-presidentially-sound things to get us into iraq."

Not presidentially sound? The liberal hates president Bush, and so the first thing they cry is that "He lied to me!"
I'm sorry, but you arn't quite important enough to lie to. Bush gave many reasons for going into Iraq, some panned out, some didn't. He never promised you anything.

Btw, when our friend Billy-bob Clinton lied to the courts, the liberals were the first ones to jump to his defense.

The liberal is a crying child throwing a tantrum, screaming and stamping their feet becuase no one likes them anymore. The majority of the country has seen the errors of the idiotic way of thinking they espouse. A few more crushing defeats should seal their fate. The end can't come soon enough.

[-Carnifex-]

Rooster, why do you even post? No one wants to hear it. It's like you're trying to be a valid poster like Albino or 1DE but can't quite get over your liberal hatred to use logic.

It seems to me that WMDs were pushed as the main reason for invading Iraq, so "he lied to me!" would be very much true up to this point (Not to say that I don't support the war.).

[MayAMonkeyBeYourPinata]

Originally posted by Rooster

The liberal is a crying child throwing a tantrum, screaming and stamping their feet becuase no one likes them anymore. The majority of the country has seen the errors of the idiotic way of thinking they espouse. A few more crushing defeats should seal their fate. The end can't come soon enough.

Actually a liberal is

liberal

\Lib"er*al\, n. One who favors greater freedom in political or religious matters; an opponent of the established systems; a reformer; in English politics, a member of the Liberal party, so called.

and, Rooster can you post a rebuttle without attacking someone.

And the fact is Bush, said Iraq has WMD's or atleast the cababilities to produce them. And as of now, none of that has panned out. So saying he lied is perfectly just statement.

[Trina]

Wow, it's amazing to hear stories like that and to be reminded that our great leaders still have compassion. It's no one's fault but the enemy's that wounded that soldier and many others. That is the job of the soldier to fight for his country.

Right now my husband, Doobie, is in Iraq and could possibly face a similiar fate as this soldier...so please everyone, stop for a moment. Put yourself in that soldier's shoes for just a minute and imagine what it would be like to lose a hand...it may affect how you play paintball, or even just putting your clothes on in the morning. All kinds of stuff like that must have been running through this soldiers head...what a great feeling that must have been at that moment in time, for the president to have offered such compassion and encouragement.

Regardless of whether you like him or not, GWB is truly a compassionate man. Please don't talk smack about him on this thread, instead pause for a moment and think about that poor soldier and what he has sacrificed for our freedom.

[Rooster]

"Rooster, why do you even post? No one wants to hear it. It's like you're trying to be a valid poster like Albino or 1DE but can't quite get over your liberal hatred to use logic."

At one time I thought like deadeye and albinonewt, that liberals were simply misguided, and logic could persuade them to reason. Logic does not register in the liberal mind, for if it did, they could never justify the hipocrisy of their every thought. I do not use logic when dealing with a liberal, becuase I know they do not understand it. I use the one thing the liberal mind can understand, passion.


"lib -er -al, blah, blah, blah, blah"

And if I had a dime for everytime some liberal posted the Webster's deffinition, I would be spending my time investing it, instead of typing to the likes of you.

[Miscue]

Need to simmer down a bit...

[bratch]

Anybody who listened to Sean Hannity over the summer should have the greatest "He lied to us" comeback. Pure gold.

Just like to stir the fire a little:)

Trina gracias for your hubby and all our good men around the world I think we can all agree on that. Republican, Democrat, Liberal, Conservative, Green, Independent, male female...I think everyone gets the point.

[Chojin Man]

Originally posted by bratch
Anybody who listened to Sean Hannity over the summer should have the greatest "He lied to us" comeback. Pure gold.

Nope missed that one. Can you tell it to us?

AlbinonewtLandmines happen to be a very important tool for war. They allow you to deny territory without a commitment of forces. Landmines save lives! (since landmines reduce the risk of firefight for a given piece of land)

I can see how they can saves lives of soldiers in a war(most are designed to mame not kill), but after the war is over you have all of these active mines, sometimes close to civilians; they can cause real problems.

RoosterThe liberal is a crying child throwing a tantrum, screaming and stamping their feet becuase no one likes them anymore. The majority of the country has seen the errors of the idiotic way of thinking they espouse. A few more crushing defeats should seal their fate. The end can't come soon enough.

The country is divided pretty evenly between Dem. and Rep. with the largest group being the Independants. Just look at the last election it was one of the closest elections ever. I'm not sure, but didn't Gore win the popular vote? You think that just because a Republican(Bush) wins one election that the majority of the country will be conservative from now on, forever? Dream on.

RoosterI do not use logic when dealing with a liberal, becuase I know they do not understand it. I use the one thing the liberal mind can understand, passion.

When you don't use logic and reasoning in your posts, but instead turn to name calling and personal attacks that makes your arguements fall on deaf ears. It also shows that you really don't have any good arguments to represent your ideas. So if they weren't listening to you before they REALLY won't give your statements a second thought now. No matter how much you kick and scream and cry and call names. Ease up Rooster not EVERYONE has to agree with you or will. Accept it, its part of becoming a mature adult.



That really long post by cphillip.
Interesting stuff I didn't know that the U.S. had such a long history trying to get a regime change in Iraq.

[bratch]

In his speech after launching preemptive strikes on Iraq the President stated...

"Saddam (Hussein) must not be allowed to threaten his neighbors or the world with nuclear arms, poison gas or biological weapons"...

"Earlier today I ordered America's armed forces to strike military and security targets in Iraq. They are joined by British forces"

"Their mission is to attack Iraq's nuclear, chemical and biological weapons programs and its military capacity to threaten its neighbors"

He then asked his guest, mainly those stating the President has lied in his reasoning, for their responses. Anyone care to guess the outcome?

[logamus]

i cannot wait for november. political discussions on this board are giving me tired head. espically since certain posters cannot post without insults.

while the original post in this thread is shown by snopes to be sorta true the one beam posted is true. i think gwb is a good man, a man that does care. i believe the war was right and just. i have a deep respect for those in uniform who risk their very lives to ensure mine is better tomorrow than it is today.

lets try to remember our lesson from bambi and end the pointless insults and personal attacks.

[Rooster]

"When you don't use logic and reasoning in your posts, but instead turn to name calling and personal attacks that makes your arguements fall on deaf ears. It also shows that you really don't have any good arguments to represent your ideas. So if they weren't listening to you before they REALLY won't give your statements a second thought now. No matter how much you kick and scream and cry and call names. Ease up Rooster not EVERYONE has to agree with you or will. Accept it, its part of becoming a mature adult. "

They obviously do not, or no one would take the time to respond. But you would have to use logic to reason that out. I have arguments that are miles long, and well reasoned, but I don't use them. Why? Because those are what fall on deaf ears. I am turning the liberal's tired old tactic on them. Becuase they lack the powers of reason, they imediately cry some tired old matra like: "What about the children! Please think of the children!" And of course the liberal's first reaction is to pretend they've never used it. Quite hilarious, but not unexpected. I don't care if anyone agrees with me, but thats not going to stop me from telling liberals what I think of their backwards thinking.

And, as I've said before, if you don't want to hear from me, don't post liberal tripe on the boards.

[Albinonewt]

Originally posted by MayAMonkeyBeYourPinata
Actually a liberal is

liberal

\Lib"er*al\, n. One who favors greater freedom in political or religious matters; an opponent of the established systems; a reformer; in English politics, a member of the Liberal party, so called.

That's not really what a liberal is anymore though. A liberal in the traditional sense in a lot of ways favors less freedom. The constant war against the Christian religion is an example of the favoring of less freedom in that regards. The restricting of the right to own firearms, although in many instances is the right thing to do, is not a blow for greater freedom. The capaign finance reform act was an exercise in restricting freedom. The various diversity requirements is an exercise in restricting freedoms. The refusal to allow personal control over social security (private invetment) is a restriction of freedom.

Now, some of these concepts can be argued to be good and worthwhile, but they are still restrictions on freedom.