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  • hitech
    Not a shedder of vortices
    • Nov 2001
    • 4775

    #91
    However, it looks like the second story is true:

    Claim: In 2003, President and Mrs. Bush helped hand out Christmas presents to children of inmates.

    Status: True.

    Origins:
    So often the stories about various politicians have nothing to them, but that is not the case here. Although not a great deal of information is available, what little we've been able to discover fits the account given above.

    On 22 December 2003, President and Mrs. Bush did visit the Shiloh Baptist Church in Alexandria, Virginia, for the purpose of recognizing its "Victim to Victory Angel Tree Ministry," a program which provides Christmas gifts to more than 500,000 children of inmates each year. The Associated Press covered their visit, and Angel Tree itself issued a press statement about the visit from the First Family, saying that "The President and First Lady joined the young guests of honor in singing carols, and reading a Christmas story. They also helped hand out gifts to approximately 50 children of prisoners at the holiday event." Breakpoint also issued an account of the Presidential visit, which includes Mr. Bush's remarks to those assembled.

    We can't tell from what little information is available how long President and Mrs. Bush spent with the families of inmates, which might well be the crux of things. Although Associated Press did mention this visit (but only in passing as part of a far larger article about George W. Bush attending a menorah lighting ceremony that same week), most news outlets didn't pick up and run the story. The e-mailed account was right about this story not getting circulated — we're not finding that news of it made its way into many newspapers. As to why the press would choose to pass over the story, keep in mind that Presidents and their wives reading to groups of children or visiting the needy and infirm during the holiday season isn't news in and of itself, because they all do it. It is therefore not surprising that the press would choose to expend their resources on what they deemed to be more exciting news stories than the standard festive season gladhanding. Yet if Colson's account is accurate ("They stayed long after the cameras were gone to greet every child, to have their picture taken with them, their mothers, and their grandmothers, to talk with them, and to ask questions"), this wasn't the standard 'smile for the cameras then run like heck' that has come to be expected from politicians; it was something more. (Although the press could hardly be expected to report the 'something more' part since, as described in the account quoted above, they were "ushered out" after ten minutes and therefore weren't around to witness it.)

    A cynical way of looking at this Christmas visit would be to attribute the President's extra involvement to a desire to draw attention to a pet project — according to the Associated Press article, "White House press secretary Scott McClellan said the event was aimed at highlighting Bush's initiative for recruiting and training mentors for more than 1 million disadvantaged youth, including 100,000 children with parents in prison." A less cynical view would be to see it as an expression of real support and concern, an act of true charity that came from the heart.


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    • Zygote
      CADmonkey
      • Apr 2002
      • 419

      #92
      Originally posted by Rooster
      You assume I want to convince people of something. I don't. I want to let them know that no matter how hard you work on their fool's errands, I will be working harder to make sure they never come to fruition. I don't desire to further my own agenda, I seek to destroy your agenda.

      I can't wait to see which one of your senseless, vitriolic posts is the one to singlehandedly destroy the liberal agenda. It's good to have a high opinion of yourself but get real.
      "Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities has the power to make you commit injustices." - Voltaire

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      • Albinonewt
        Team Icky Forest
        • Apr 2003
        • 2456

        #93
        Originally posted by Chojin Man
        We might be resposeable with them, but other countries are probably not as much as we try to be. Have you seen those new mines that can be set to automaticly detonate after a certain period of time? Those are pretty neat.
        Yeah I have.

        And that's basically why I don't really care about the treaty. There's two kinds of countries, responsible ones like us and Britain that will clean up their mines, and despotic psychos like Syria and North Korea that won't, no matter how many treaties they sign.

        I certainly agree with the notion of reducing landmines in the world, but the treaty is meaningless.
        Or better yet, why don't you kill yourself. No, really, die. Drop dead, don't leave a note, in fact burn your house while your little ego is stuck in a bench vice so that you'll also incenerate yourslef and everything you own with it. Because that's all you're worth. You're not even wirh thte time it'll take for the house to burn down, so just kill yourself. You're a waste of space. You are nothing, you always will be nothing. Don't leave a note, you're not worth the ink. - Tyger

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        • impostal22
          disgruntled...
          • Apr 2003
          • 1623

          #94
          hitech..thanks for finding that!

          rooster- you can get off your high horse of red scare conservatism now.
          looks like questioning the validity of a story is a good idea, eh?

          edit- decided to self censor myself and not bash rooster
          Last edited by impostal22; 01-26-2004, 07:31 PM.

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          • Rooster
            Registered User
            • Oct 2000
            • 1069

            #95
            Lol, re-read my first post in this thread. I doubted the veracity of this report myself. Nearly anything sent via email has gone through the same embellishment. My original point still stands. Since when did liberals start caring about something as silly as the truth?

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            • -Carnifex-
              Registered User
              • Jan 2003
              • 1434

              #96
              Not sure, maybe we should ask CB?
              "What we have to accomplish at this time is all the more clear: relentless criticism of all existing conditions, relentless in the sense that the criticism is not afraid of its findings and just as little afraid of the conflict with the powers that be."
              - Karl Marx

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              • AutoMaggot
                ...
                • Dec 2001
                • 851

                #97
                *Don't flame and don't circumvent the cuss filter*
                Last edited by Load SM5; 01-27-2004, 07:10 PM.

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                • Zygote
                  CADmonkey
                  • Apr 2002
                  • 419

                  #98
                  That text was taken from a christian web site. You expect them to not talk about their religion because you don't believe in it?
                  "Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities has the power to make you commit injustices." - Voltaire

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                  • Restola
                    Certificated Cloud Buster
                    • May 2001
                    • 2230

                    #99
                    Originally posted by Zygote
                    You expect them to not talk about their religion because you don't believe in it?
                    You expect people not to state their opinions because you don't want to hear it?

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                    • -Carnifex-
                      Registered User
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 1434

                      #100
                      Originally posted by Restola

                      You expect people not to state their opinions because you don't want to hear it?
                      He never said that.
                      "What we have to accomplish at this time is all the more clear: relentless criticism of all existing conditions, relentless in the sense that the criticism is not afraid of its findings and just as little afraid of the conflict with the powers that be."
                      - Karl Marx

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                      • Restola
                        Certificated Cloud Buster
                        • May 2001
                        • 2230

                        #101
                        AutoMaggot never said he expected the site to not talk about their religion.

                        Pro-religion lashing-out is as annoying as anti-religion lashing out. Both sides should restrain themselves.

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                        • Zygote
                          CADmonkey
                          • Apr 2002
                          • 419

                          #102
                          I'm not religious. People can post whatever they want on their own sites. Don't go there if you don't like it.
                          "Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities has the power to make you commit injustices." - Voltaire

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                          • MayAMonkeyBeYourPinata
                            Another One Bites The Dust
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 2246

                            #103
                            Originally posted by theraidenproject
                            Liberals care nothing about the truth when it comes to furthering their agenda.
                            Conservatives care nothing about the truth when it comes to futhering their agenda.
                            The arguments you people on both sides throw at each other apply both ways. Why can't we all agree that politicians are self-serving scumbags?

                            I am so sick of reading all this stupid political crap on AO. No one is going to change anyone else's mind.
                            so very true, but it is fun to argue

                            edit- weird how did my post end up above yours
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                            • theraidenproject
                              Registered User
                              • Jun 2001
                              • 1240

                              #104
                              Liberals care nothing about the truth when it comes to furthering their agenda.
                              Conservatives care nothing about the truth when it comes to futhering their agenda.
                              The arguments you people on both sides throw at each other apply both ways. Why can't we all agree that politicians are self-serving scumbags?

                              I am so sick of reading all this stupid political crap on AO. No one is going to change anyone else's mind.
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                              • impostal22
                                disgruntled...
                                • Apr 2003
                                • 1623

                                #105
                                Originally posted by theraidenproject
                                Liberals care nothing about the truth when it comes to furthering their agenda.
                                Conservatives care nothing about the truth when it comes to futhering their agenda.
                                some of us tend to stay away from dumb generalizations like that.

                                *some* (not most) of us argue the issue, not the person or his or her label.

                                but i agree w/ what you said...most ppl on here lack the support for their arguments or have a superiority complex so they feel they have to bash those that disagree with them. not gonna mention any names, though.

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