No More IE for me!

[The Deacon]

I just downloaded Firebird, liking it, but it's incompatible w/ my keyboard's internet buttons (Logitech wireless, I-Touch software).

I'm also getting the skinny reply screen. Little help guys?

[Mindflux]

It's how mozilla renders the page. Mozilla/Firebird follow w3c compatibility rules very closely where as IE does not. The vBulletin people probably fabricated this system with IE in mind, thus your skinny reply. You're gonna find pages that look weird in firebird because IE doesn't follow the w3c rules, so most developers dont either.

[Mindflux]

I get the skinny reply in firebird too.

Welcome to the world wide web as seen through a truly w3c compliant browser.

[Cryer]

Originally posted by Mindflux
It's how mozilla renders the page. Mozilla/Firebird follow w3c compatibility rules very closely where as IE does not. The vBulletin people probably fabricated this system with IE in mind, thus your skinny reply. You're gonna find pages that look weird in firebird because IE doesn't follow the w3c rules, so most developers dont either.

damn.

[Cryer]

btw... whats w3c?

[Mindflux]

http://www.w3.org/

More specifically for HTML

http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/

[Jack & Coke]

I use mozilla 1.6 sometimes... what's the difference between:

mozilla 1.6 and firebird 0.7 ?

I get the skinny reply screen too...

[alkafluence]

Re: Re: No More IE for me!

Originally posted by Fixion




If you use linux I can guide you through the installation of any plugin.
Currently I have the following pugins installed (on Firebird in Linux):
Shockwave
Flash
Java
Mplayer (plays WMV, WMA, RealMedia, Quicktime, and most other things)

Same here, except I've done the same on FreeBSD.

aboutlugins

rpnp.so audio/x-pn-realaudio-plugin

Shockwave Flash
libflashplayer.so Shockwave Flash 6.0 r79

Java(TM) Plug-in 1.4.2_01-b06
libjavaplugin_oji.so Java(TM) Plug-in 1.4.2_01

nppdf.so
application/pdf

etc... etc...

[Mindflux]

Originally posted by Jack & Coke
I use mozilla 1.6 sometimes... what's the difference between:

mozilla 1.6 and firebird 0.7 ?

I get the skinny reply screen too...

Mozilla has the news client, mail client and the web client, firebird is just the web client, and much of the 'bulk' has been removed from it.

Jonneh would argue that mozilla isn't bulky, but we know it is and he just wont admit it.

[cphilip]

That skinny reply thing I have to think is a deliberate Microsoft thing. If its not then its certainly coming from the IE design somewhere. Most of the web sites designed with IE look like that in another browser. Same thing here in Safari. Which I think is a Linux based program, at its heart anyway. I can look at sites designed using Apple software and they all look fine no matter what browser I use. Even in IE as well. But then... here and some others.... the skinny thingie...but its not all that bad for me. I can see it fairly well no problem.

[Cryer]

Originally posted by cphilip
That skinny reply thing I have to think is a deliberate Microsoft thing. If its not then its certainly coming from the IE design somewhere. Most of the web sites designed with IE look like that in another browser. Same thing here in Safari. Which I think is a Linux based program, at its heart anyway. I can look at sites designed using Apple software and they all look fine no matter what browser I use. Even in IE as well. But then... here and some others.... the skinny thingie...but its not all that bad for me. I can see it fairly well no problem.

It doesn't bother me, I can see fine, its just such a waste of space. Plus I have to scroll down after writing 1 sentance...

[impostal22]

guh..firebird seems a LOT slower than IE..odd.

[Mindflux]

Originally posted by impostal22
guh..firebird seems a LOT slower than IE..odd.

It's not, it's just how firebird renders things.

IE downloads the whole page at once, which is part of the reason it takes so long.

Firebird snags the HTML first, so you can get context.. and grabs the images afterward (which is why when you hit a new page for the first time you see a lot of "broken image" icons.

There are a ton of tweaks for firebird, to make it even faster yet, check out mozillazine.org's firebird forums and do some searching. I'd paste mine, but I'm at work and don't have my settings here.

You can also get "optimized" firebird editions on the mozillazine forums too, they'll be compiled specifically for p4s, or athlons or whatever you have. those make the physical browser faster, but not the browsing speed in most instances.

[Mindflux]

/* Enable=true Disable=false pipelining */
user_pref("network.http.pipelining", true);
user_pref("network.http.proxy.pipelining", true);
user_pref("network.http.pipelining.maxrequests", 4);
user_pref("network.http.max-connections", 24);
user_pref("network.http.max-connections-per-server", 8);
user_pref("network.http.max-persistent-connections-per-server", 4);
/* Last value in milliseconds (default is 250) */
user_pref("nglayout.initialpaint.delay", 1000);
/* Turn on timer-based reflow management */
user_pref("content.notify.ontimer", true);
/* Sets the allowed time between reflows in microseconds */
user_pref("content.notify.interval", 100);
/* Set the number of reflows to do before waiting for the rest of the page to arrive */
user_pref("content.notify.backoffcount", 200);

those can go in your prefs.js file located in your mozilla profile folder.

you can also change them in about:config (in the http bar) by doing a search, it should make it's own user.js file for you

or go here: http://texturizer.net/firebird/extensions/

and get chromeedit plugin, i also suggest tabbed browser extensions and mouse gesture extension

[Mindflux]

Oh man, i just snagged the firebird 0.8 beta, it's nice.