Try this in my yard and get shot!!!!!

[PyRo]

They shouldn't be allowed in school if there parents arn't paying the tax for it like everyone else. Why should they get a free education because they're illigle?

Whoever made that we shouldn't force anyone to do anything argument. Why do we have jails then? I bet most people don't want to be in jail. There are also a few people I don't like, may I go out and kill them because we live in a free country?

My female doging about the prison system you will find in a differant thread.

[ubooze]

I don't think you get the point. Of course civil laws ought to be enforced, thats a no-brainer. So that would mean cracking down on those illegals. BUT taelling the guy he has to learn English and live like an American and buy American and celebrate American isn't right.

I wonder how many of you download music, games, programs, and files? Have you ever gone over the speed limit? Have you done underaged drinking or smoking? Possibly weed? Is everthing YOU do legal? No. I am sorry to say your as bad as those people who struggle to survive. You too detract from the nation. I am not implying EVERYONE here but many do. I know I do and I accept that fact. I am as bad as those immigrants.

I for one would much rather pay for the education of a immigrant who MAY actually learn something and becomes a recieves leagl status than pay for the education of some of the white trash in my local schools. You cry that your paying for the immigrant's education, I don't think some of the kids in school now are worth a damn penny more. But somehow we have to accept that.

Your not going to pick fruit, clean houses, work construction, and etc. Immigrants will do it, they'll work at minimum wage. If they feel the need to find a better job, they'll become residents/citizens. Otherwise getting better pay is almost imossible. I think an immigrant out of poverty is more beneficial to out country than the slackers that have had the chance to gain a decent education and yet have no job or better than people who live off of government money. How do those people deserve it? Is it because they are Americans? Simple fact is if the government has to run your life in order for it to gain some stability, if the government has to pump cash into you to satisfy your needs, then you are not worth the money. I know two kids in my private school, so the parents are paying taxes, who were illegal. I consider them hundreds of times more interesting than the brain dead idiots in one of my public schools.

So you see, its just that pointing at these immigrants who work at low paying jobs and in less than desirable conditions is not exactly the best thing considering that America ain't perfect. And no, it is not because of THEM. And is it odd that the world's super power attracts several people?

[shartley]

Originally posted by ubooze
I don't think you get the point. Of course civil laws ought to be enforced, thats a no-brainer. So that would mean cracking down on those illegals. BUT taelling the guy he has to learn English and live like an American and buy American and celebrate American isn't right.

I wonder how many of you download music, games, programs, and files? Have you ever gone over the speed limit? Have you done underaged drinking or smoking? Possibly weed? Is everthing YOU do legal? No. I am sorry to say your as bad as those people who struggle to survive. You too detract from the nation. I am not implying EVERYONE here but many do. I know I do and I accept that fact. I am as bad as those immigrants.

Originally posted by ubooze
I for one would much rather pay for the education of a immigrant who MAY actually learn something and becomes a recieves leagl status than pay for the education of some of the white trash in my local schools. You cry that your paying for the immigrant's education, I don't think some of the kids in school now are worth a damn penny more. But somehow we have to accept that.

Originally posted by ubooze
Your not going to pick fruit, clean houses, work construction, and etc. Immigrants will do it, they'll work at minimum wage. If they feel the need to find a better job, they'll become residents/citizens. Otherwise getting better pay is almost imossible. I think an immigrant out of poverty is more beneficial to out country than the slackers that have had the chance to gain a decent education and yet have no job or better than people who live off of government money. How do those people deserve it? Is it because they are Americans? Simple fact is if the government has to run your life in order for it to gain some stability, if the government has to pump cash into you to satisfy your needs, then you are not worth the money. I know two kids in my private school, so the parents are paying taxes, who were illegal. I consider them hundreds of times more interesting than the brain dead idiots in one of my public schools.

MOST illegal immigrants do NOT become legal ones. And contrary to what you may think, people will work the jobs you mentioned. And even more so LEGAL immigrants would as well. And guess what? I have applied for jobs just like the ones you listed, and I was REFUSED the jobs. Go figure!?!?

Originally posted by ubooze
So you see, its just that pointing at these immigrants who work at low paying jobs and in less than desirable conditions is not exactly the best thing considering that America ain't perfect. And no, it is not because of THEM. And is it odd that the world's super power attracts several people?

[1stdeadeye]

Originally posted by TigerMan


If it is taxes your worried about, why not complain about the hundreds of thousands we spend on prisoners? We pay for them to have 3 meals a day, a cozy space, and other things, and it costs very much for that all. Why not complain to overweight people? Their health conditions is giving many higher prices for health insurance and driving up the price of many medical expenses.

Prisoners are our responsibility. We can't just shoot them all!

As for overweight people, if they are paying taxes and paying for their health insurance, who am I to tell them to go on a diet.

The kids of illegals should receive education because in all reality it most likely wasn't there choice to leave in the first place. And college degree? Probably 1 in 100 illegal immigrants children is able to even get a community college degree because wherever they live, even for in state schools, they have to pay out of state tuition. It's basically high school for them and that's it.

Sorry doesn't fly! They should not be here at all! They should all be rounded up and shipped out. Let them go to school in the country they are legal citizens or residents of!

So you never answered why should I have to pay for the education of an illegal? Why should I have to pay higher healthcare costs to make up for CharityCare for illegals at my local hospitals?

Illegals have no right to be here and thus no rights except the right to a free trip home! That I'll pay for gladly!!!

[FactsOfLife]

Originally posted by MagMan5446
That was the moral of American History X


ubooze has a pretty good scenario.


Are they taking your jobs? Are they protesting your door? Will they ever? No. so **** it.

No moron, they're breaking the law.

Apparently soemthing you don't see as a problem.

[PyRo]

Originally posted by ubooze
I wonder how many of you download music, games, programs, and files? Have you ever gone over the speed limit? Have you done underaged drinking or smoking? Possibly weed? Is everthing YOU do legal? No. I am sorry to say your as bad as those people who struggle to survive. You too detract from the nation. I am not implying EVERYONE here but many do. I know I do and I accept that fact. I am as bad as those immigrants.

And if we get caught we get sued by the RIAA, we get tickets, our licenses revoked, jail time. Now when the illigle immigrents get caught they get rewarded? When I get paid to speed and download music by the government and the RIAA I will suppord illigle immigration.
If you get hit by an unlicensed, uninsured illigle immigrant, what do you think your chances of ever collecting any money are? What can you do, they don't have a real adress, or a phone number, the only way to make sure they don't disapear is to jail them which doesn't happen, and even if you did catch them they don't have the money to give you, and you cannot sue them because they don't exist in our country. If you an American citizen hit an unlicensed uninsured illigle immigrant, do you have to pay for there car and medical bills? Yes you do.
And believe me, there are tons of unlicensed, uninsured people running around.

[TigerMan]

Originally posted by 1stdeadeye

So you never answered why should I have to pay for the education of an illegal? Why should I have to pay higher healthcare costs to make up for CharityCare for illegals at my local hospitals?

Why should you have to pay higher healthcare then for overweight people? I'm not overweight, so then why do I have to pay because someone can't control their weight? I'll tell you why, everyone needs help in some point of their lives. If that means helping illegals by paying taxes so they can lead a fraction of the life of the average American, fine I will. Why should I have to pay for the Iraq war? I don't agree with it, yet $87 billion dollars of Americans money is being pumped into a war for liberating Iraq and finding "weapons of mass destruction" that have yet to be found (and hundreds of US soldiers have died and our president conjures up a joke over it).

I'd rather much pay for an illegal whose willing to do something rather than a slack minded drop out of high school living off of welfare.

[Kai]

Originally posted by FactsOfLife



Yeah about as much as I love 16 year old punk liberals who think they're smart.


Get a clue, child.

No moron, they're breaking the law.

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[1stdeadeye]

Originally posted by TigerMan


Why should you have to pay higher healthcare then for overweight people? I'm not overweight, so then why do I have to pay because someone can't control their weight? I'll tell you why, everyone needs help in some point of their lives.

Uhm no. Being obese is not a crime. Being and illegal alien is a crime. Big difference. Those Fat People pay for healthcare too. Illegal Aliens do not.

If that means helping illegals by paying taxes so they can lead a fraction of the life of the average American, fine I will.

Then sponsor them to become legal residents! Otherwise get them out. No one has a RIGHT to move into America and live off of our largese. Becomeing a legal resident and then a citizen is a privalege.

So you are alson now contradicting your earlier posts about not condoning illegals by saying you do. I guess you are now officially a hypocrite!

Why should I have to pay for the Iraq war? I don't agree with it, yet $87 billion dollars of Americans money is being pumped into a war for liberating Iraq and finding "weapons of mass destruction" that have yet to be found (and hundreds of US soldiers have died and our president conjures up a joke over it).

National defense. Don't like it, vote out the current government. Otherwise tough luck. IT was legal and Congress approved it.

You don't get the point! ILLEGAL ALIENS ARE ILLEGAL!!! THEY ALL NEED TO BE ROUNDED UP AND DEPORTED! ILLEGALS ARE LEECHES THAT FEED OFF OF AMERICA COVERTLY!!!

I'd rather much pay for an illegal whose willing to do something rather than a slack minded drop out of high school living off of welfare.

Thank God you aren't running our country or we would now be living in Los Eastados Unidos de Mexico!

[PyRo]

I don't think its good for our economy either to have these guys sending what should be tax money back to mexico

[FactsOfLife]

Originally posted by Kai




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Oh I am so upset. I've been dissed by some snotnosed commie wannabe.

[TigerMan]

Originally posted by 1stdeadeye


Thank God you aren't running our country or we would now be living in Los Eastados Unidos de Mexico!

Thank God you aren't either because we'd be a nation where the KKK be prevalent. Your comments about these immigrants make you sound as if your a grand wizard of the KKK in you saying "round them up" or "take them all back to Mexico!" These are comments someone of the KKK would make.

[PyRo]

No, if I were the leader of the KKK, I would say shoot anyone who looks Mexican, Black, Asian, Jewish, Catholic, or just deviates from being the ideal christian.



Now i'm just saying round up the ILLIGLE ones and send them back to there country. They broke the law, just like anyone else they should be punished for doing so. How can anyone argue with that?

[Rooster]

"I for one would much rather pay for the education of a immigrant who MAY actually learn something and becomes a recieves leagl status than pay for the education of some of the white trash in my local schools. You cry that your paying for the immigrant's education, I don't think some of the kids in school now are worth a damn penny more. But somehow we have to accept that. "

And I would much rather send illegal scum back to where they came from. And to the mental midget with the KKK comment, I hate all illegals equally whether they are from Mexico or England.

[Potatoboy]

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