AO: We are back from the dead... again! After an 18 day outage, we are finally alive and well. Who knew how complicated updating software/databases from 2008 would be. I still have alot of tweaks to make, but my main goal was getting everything patched and updated to 2026.
Vbulletin 6 has changed alot since 2008 so we will have a ton of new features to dig into.
this has almost no relevence to the thread at all but....a sophmore history class had to make posters about the holocaust and one kids poster simply read:
kill
all
the
jews
i laughed pretty hard because im politically incorrect.
this has almost no relevence to the thread at all but....a sophmore history class had to make posters about the holocaust and one kids poster simply read:
kill
all
the
jews
i laughed pretty hard because im politically incorrect.
I would laugh at that also. Certain things are offensive...but when something goes way beyond that, it becomes funny to me. Perfect example http://www.tshirthell.com/shirts/tshirt.php?sku=a102. It has absolutely zero taste, and is so far beyond offensive that I still smile when I think that someone actually thought that up. Kind of like when a clown wears giant shoes I guess...
Oh, and I also do not support giving my tax dollars to Isreal. Or any other country. If you care about Isreal, buy ammo and ship it to their government. Don't make me pay for it.
They aren't flying planes into buildings! When they want to kill each other, they don't go terrorist, they go nuts!!! Rwanda for example......
Palestinians didn't fly planes into buildings... Upper/middle class palestinians as terrorists??? Are you kidding? There are no "upper classes", save Arafat who steals money... They are all living in a ghetto formed by the Israelis. You want collective punishment then don't ***** when terrorists target US citizens.
Rooster "But such is the mentallity of the Arab people. Which is why as long as there are Arabs, there will be a terrorist problem."
^^^ known AO racists
well considering how bin ladin was behind the attacks and his family is very wealthy as a whole i would say he is correct to some extent i think its more of a rich control most of the organizations and they make the poor the little guys that blow themselves up (like how sadaam paid the families of the suicide bombers in isreal)
By the way, if poverty breeds terrorists, how come we don't have African terrorists blowing things up?
well im not african (notices the sereotype there and isnt amused) and im not poverty stricken, but yesterday i blew up my shed, yeah, it was pretty freakin sweeeeeeeeeet....
then last month i blew a 6 by about 9 foot hole in my backyard.
then i blew up some concrete stairs...
and i dont live near neighbors, so i have no problems...but i do it when im really mad, and im causing terror to wood animals...am i a terrorist
Palestinians didn't fly planes into buildings... Upper/middle class palestinians as terrorists??? Are you kidding? There are no "upper classes", save Arafat who steals money... They are all living in a ghetto formed by the Israelis. You want collective punishment then don't ***** when terrorists target US citizens.
I'll just go ahead and assume you haven't read any real studies on it then.
Just over 1/3 of all palestinians live in impoverished conditions, but amazingly enough only 13% of sucide bombers come from poverty stricken families.
Another thing that may interest you, as a general population only 15% of palestinians have post high school educations. Yet 57% of palestinian terrorists do.
Doesn't add up. Perhaps you should do some research and look past the sterotypes.
Automags.org: Where 90% of statistics are made up on the spot.
Link? Oh wait, we are listening to statistics? So what about the Israeli organization studies that show that Israel intentionally targets civillians, shown by the number of head shots? Or the number of Palestinians civilians killed relative to the number of Israelis killed? Or the fact that all the Palestinians are living in a ghetto, where as Israel gets our 3 billion a year check?
Rooster "But such is the mentallity of the Arab people. Which is why as long as there are Arabs, there will be a terrorist problem."
^^^ known AO racists
well im not african (notices the sereotype there and isnt amused) and im not poverty stricken, but yesterday i blew up my shed, yeah, it was pretty freakin sweeeeeeeeeet....
then last month i blew a 6 by about 9 foot hole in my backyard.
then i blew up some concrete stairs...
and i dont live near neighbors, so i have no problems...but i do it when im really mad, and im causing terror to wood animals...am i a terrorist
Nope...not a terrorist...just a person none to smart and probably handless soon.
Automags.org: Where 90% of statistics are made up on the spot.
Link? Oh wait, we are listening to statistics? So what about the Israeli organization studies that show that Israel intentionally targets civillians, shown by the number of head shots? Or the number of Palestinians civilians killed relative to the number of Israelis killed? Or the fact that all the Palestinians are living in a ghetto, where as Israel gets our 3 billion a year check?
Please dont generalize it tends to rub people the wrong way.
Statisticly both positions are lacking statistics. However there are reasons that people think the way that they do.
Id like to hear your solution to the problem that is fair to both sides.
How do you negotiate with people that dont want to negotiate? Not too long ago there was a wave of attacks on Israel because they didnt like the fact that there was going to be a new palestinean organization that would take some power away from arafat and possibly open the doors to civil negotiation.
How do you negotiate with people that publicly state that they want all isralis dead?
just one perspective...
dont blame the US, dont blame the israelis, dont blame the poor innocent civilian palestineans...
blame the people that walk into cafes and blow up innocent men women and childern because they are driven by the philosophy that all israleis should die.
Blame those people who instigate violence by instilling these non tolerant policies.
again thats just my opinion...
Again I would like to hear your SOLUTION.
Did you hear about the new european weapons contracts? France is going to make the wooden sticks Spain making the little white flags
Please dont generalize it tends to rub people the wrong way.
Statisticly both positions are lacking statistics. However there are reasons that people think the way that they do.
Id like to hear your solution to the problem that is fair to both sides.
How do you negotiate with people that dont want to negotiate? Not too long ago there was a wave of attacks on Israel because they didnt like the fact that there was going to be a new palestinean organization that would take some power away from arafat and possibly open the doors to civil negotiation.
How do you negotiate with people that publicly state that they want all isralis dead?
just one perspective...
dont blame the US, dont blame the israelis, dont blame the poor innocent civilian palestineans...
blame the people that walk into cafes and blow up innocent men women and childern because they are driven by the philosophy that all israleis should die.
Blame those people who instigate violence by instilling these non tolerant policies.
again thats just my opinion...
Again I would like to hear your SOLUTION.
You think that the Israelis want peace? Sabra and Shatila anyone? What about the fact that the Likud party's manefesto quotes the party's purpose as "A greater Israel, from Sea to Jordan river"? What does this mean? Israel wants peace, but only if the Palestinians get up and walk away. It is correct to blame suicide bombers for making matters worse, but don't we have to put some blame on the country that HAS infrastructure, HAS running water, HAS electricity, HAS over 3 billion a year in US foreign aid and doesn't do **** to solve anything?
You want peace? Evacuate all the settlements, they do not provide "defense" for Israel and they cut up the west bank and make it a concentration camp. Have you seen the map of how divided the west bank is? Its criscrossed by settlements, it is like a prison. Make the West Bank continuous. Settlers are the biggest opponents to peace in the area. Assasination of Rabin anyone? Was it a Palestinian who killed a man working for peace, or was it a settler who thought that it was wrong to have peace with Palestinians living? They are the equivolent to the Arabs who say "Destroy Israel because they are Jewish". Well, guess what, the settlers have the attitude, "Kick out or kill the Palestinians because we are the chosen people and this is our land." Except that the settlers are basically people on welfare from Israel and the US. So #1 get rid of the settlers. Number two, get infrastructure going, you aren't going to end palestinian terrorism until you stop terrorizing them. Curfews, checkpoints, no water, no electricity, schools being shut down by soldiers, until you end the mass suffering, you can't have peace.
I want peace for the Israelis, I want peace for the Palestinians. I think that it is right to expect the Palestinians to give up armed rebelion and for them to go with peaceful protest (they would need an MLK), however, both you and I know that that is not going to happen. It just simply isn't, no one has control over the territories, no one has the money and no one is willing to step up and do anything since they are being put between Israel's assasinations and Palestinian uprisings. I put the burden on Israel, because they DO have the power to make things better in the territories, they DO have the finacial backing (though I think it is wrong) to make differences.
Right of Return - This is not a country right, this is an INDIVIDUAL RIGHT. It is not for a Prime Minister to say "we give up this right", this is the right that after a conflict has subsided, civilian refugees can return to their land. What happend in 1948 and 1967 is ethnic cleansing. There is nothing that can change what happend. Peace is meaningless without justice. You want to go hardline on Hamas and Islamic Jihad, go ahead, **** them over as much as you want. But you are only making problems worse by collective punishment.
Rooster "But such is the mentallity of the Arab people. Which is why as long as there are Arabs, there will be a terrorist problem."
^^^ known AO racists
Nope...not a terrorist...just a person none to smart and probably handless soon.
im very very safe when i blow things up...i usually have about a 30 or so foot fuse...which usually i make into a sparkleer, so it sparkles before it blows up
also why would i be handles...i jest dont feel like using other tools to remove things i dont want from my ward while im angry
a lumberjack has more of a chance of losing a hand...most i have a chance of losing is my yard...
well thats already lost since i setup a small hyberball feild in my backyard, for personal use only...its for team practice too...well i got a big yardddddddd (i really live in colchester....i just put it as norwhich...cause i cant spell colchester
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