Teacher getting fired for Nick Berg Video

[The Deacon]

That teacher is an idiot. Showing a video of that level to teenagers (who can't even make it into a friggin' R movie without their parents) without parent permission is idiotic. Sure, while none of the kids may be traumatized by it, it was certainly bad enough to shake a kid so much as to inform his parents. The risk of permanent psychological damage is far too great to run around showing this video to kids. And yes, you are kids. Look at your peers you talk about that laugh at the video. They are not mature enough to comprehend that this man had a loving family that cared deeply about him and now everyone in the world is watching him get murdered over and over again, and some people are laughing about it. My heart and prayers go out to them, that's almost too much to deal with. And don't give me this "Whatever, you old man ragging on us punk kids" spiel, I'm only 18.

And yes, Band of Brothers and all that were gorier, but they're actors, not an innocent person (Yes, he was innocent. Anyone who says differently is a traitor and doesn't deserve their 1st amendment rights).

I'm sure most everyone has seen a Holocaust movie. While it may have been disturbing, it isn't near as bad as the real thing. If you ever see REAL footage, it's much more emotional and disgusting simply because you can't say, "Well, those are really just actors and this didn't happen to them."

Just giving the kids the option to view something of that level in a controlled, public learning environment is ridiculous. I'd can him or at least punish him severely. You're too young (hell, I'm too young) to know what's good for you.

[shartley]

I'm not pointing fingers at you shartley or anyone in specific, I'm just stating that he didn't show the clip just to be sick and twisted, he used it to show how things in the world are now days, that's the kind of teacher he is, he is very blunt, he doesn't beat around the bush on things like this, that's the way I like my teachers to be, I guess some people on her don't. And please, if you don't know the mans name, don't state that he should get fired, how would you like it if at work you slipped up once but you thought it was ok, then you had people all over the country that you've never heard of saying you should be fired. Please, give the man some dignity.

[1stdeadeye]

To set an example for the rest of the teachers here? That has to be one of the dumbest things I've ever heard. You're saying that all teachers in Albert Lea are gonna do things like this? I actually take a lot of offense in that statement.
How is this the same as a sex ed teacher showing a porno in class? Nice analogy but better luck next time.

Then you need to look past your personal agenda and really see what we are all trying to say. We are not condeming a man we do not know. We are condeming a poor choce he made that must be punished. If you do not, then you are opening the doors for teachers to do what they want without fear of repercussion. That could be disasterous.

My analogy is spot on. A sex ed teacher wanting to show students what sex "really" is could use the same logic as your teacher in justifying that behavior. The lack of judgement shown merits punishment. This way you force the teachers to think twice before acting once.

[Timmee]

Don't assume that all children have one opinion, and that all grown adults have another. I agree that the teacher should be severely disciplined, but not fired.

[Timmee]

I need to go back to the point.. that the kids seeing it bother me but hey, if kids want to do something they generally will find a way.

The adult accomadating it and condoning it would have an issue. Luckily its not me sitting up with my children because they are having nightmares.. traumatize my child like that when you are an adult in a position of authority and THERE WILL BE CONSEQUENCES... thats life and I will accept the consequences of my actions in bringing those consequences.

Threatening with violence? That's mature.

[shartley]

Don't assume that all children have one opinion, and that all grown adults have another. I agree that the teacher should be severely disciplined, but not fired.

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[Lohman446]

Threatening with violence? That's mature.

I never claimed to be overly mature have I? Like it or not violence does have a place in society, and on very rare occassion it is the answer. Is this one of the occassions, probably not but him and I, along with the administration would discuss this afterwards and somewhere there would be an outcome I could live with. That outcome may very well be that he has NOTHING to do with my child ever again and I would cope with that. The point is, in this situation, there will be some consequence - I will grant you what I said is easily seen as a threat of violence - but anything advesary in nature holds a threat of violence somewhere. It is not, in reality, the threat you take it to be - I would seek alternate solutions to the problem I had - violence is a last case resort where nothing else will work. I am certain, that between adults (and even most children) nearly all situations can be handled before they escalate to violence and I am sure this one would be as I comprimsed from the threat of legal action (not something I want) to dismissal (what I really want), through adminstrative punishment and a transfer of my child from his class (what would likely be the final solution) down to this person having nothing to do with my child (what I would settle for and what I can do without anyones help, they do make private schools). Thus I have an acceptable solution to myself as a last resort that is not violence. Does that give him consequences for his error, not directly, the school looses some funding on head count but what is that? I guess as I write this my statement was overboard, because I am not willing to resort to any means to assure he would have consequences... see that I typed without fully thinking out what I would do - ever tell you I was perfect? Frankly I beleive that anything less than dismissal is too lenient, but I do not teach children or deal with school administration on a regular enough basis to say what should happen for everyones kids - only my own who are not anywhere near highschool and perhaps my views will mellow by then.

[SlartyBartFast]

This one will bother the teens on the list. It has been scientifically shown throught the use of brain scans and brain mapping that most people do not fuly develop the capability to reason until they're 18-20 years old.

http://www.lcsc.edu/ps205/inside.htm

"And just as a teenager is all legs one day and all nose and ears the next, different regions of his brain are developing on different timetables. For instance, one of the last parts to mature is in charge of making sound judgments and calming unruly emotions."

[cphilip]

Proven fact amongst young males and personaly experienced by me...

The little head develops before the big head.

[Leader of Men]

I just watched it and yes, he should be fired. That was sick.... I think I'm going to be sick.

[CaptaiN_JacK]

ok here are some new developments. hes still in school. the parents of 2 twin girls called in. (on a side note-these girls are goody two-shoes losers). in the beginning of the semester, the teacher sent home permission slips so that he can show saving private ryan and other war movies. in other words, the permission slips is what probably saved him his job.

Overprotective parents: 0 points
Genious teacher: 1 point

and thats game.

[1stdeadeye]

ok here are some new developments. hes still in school. the parents of 2 twin girls called in. (on a side note-these girls are goody two-shoes losers). in the beginning of the semester, the teacher sent home permission slips so that he can show saving private ryan and other war movies. in other words, the permission slips is what probably saved him his job.

Overprotective parents: 0 points
Genious teacher: 1 point

and thats game.

So raising decent God fearing children makes tham losers? Sorry my boy if you wish to see a loser, you should look in the mirror.

[aaron_mag]

BWWWWWHHHHWHHHAAAHHAHHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAA

So true...so darn true....

[1stdeadeye]

Hey 1stdeadey, what the *POOF* is your problem? Everyone else on here is keeping their cool and not calling other people losers. Why do you have to? We are entitiled to our opinions whether you like it or not.

Please re-read my quote of CJ's words. I did not start the name calling. He choose to describe the people who complained as losers, not me. I would have complained as well and demanded the teacher be sanctioned.

BTW, nice language!

[ShooterJM]

Everyone else on here is keeping their cool and not calling other people losers.

For your reading pleasure

the parents of 2 twin girls called in. (on a side note-these girls are goody two-shoes losers).