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  • -Carnifex-
    Registered User
    • Jan 2003
    • 1434

    #121
    Originally posted by 1stdeadeye
    Actually we originally went into Vietnam to save the French. (Stupid French again! *Shaekes Fist*) Can you say Dien Bien Phu?
    Yes, but that's implicit in any armed conflict!

    Originally posted by SlartyBartFast
    South Vietnam?!?

    That's Korea.

    Didn't save anything in the retreat from Vietnam...
    I know, it was a typo, sorry.

    I'm not stupid, really, I swear!
    "What we have to accomplish at this time is all the more clear: relentless criticism of all existing conditions, relentless in the sense that the criticism is not afraid of its findings and just as little afraid of the conflict with the powers that be."
    - Karl Marx

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    • SlartyBartFast
      The Flying Scotsman
      • Jun 2002
      • 2940

      #122
      Originally posted by -Carnifex-
      Yes, but that's implicit in any armed conflict!
      I know, it was a typo, sorry.

      I'm not stupid, really, I swear!
      I'll give you the benefit of doubt.

      But also remember that Korea was a UN operation.

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      • -Carnifex-
        Registered User
        • Jan 2003
        • 1434

        #123
        I thought Korea was NATO.
        "What we have to accomplish at this time is all the more clear: relentless criticism of all existing conditions, relentless in the sense that the criticism is not afraid of its findings and just as little afraid of the conflict with the powers that be."
        - Karl Marx

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        • MayAMonkeyBeYourPinata
          Another One Bites The Dust
          • Feb 2003
          • 2246

          #124
          Originally posted by -Carnifex-
          I thought Korea was NATO.
          Korea was a UN Police Action
          Love Will Tear Us Apart

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          • 1stdeadeye
            Still around????
            • Jun 2002
            • 8501

            #125
            Originally posted by -Carnifex-
            I thought Korea was NATO.
            NATO=NORTH ATLANTIC Treaty Organization



            Why would NATO be in the Pacific?

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            • -Carnifex-
              Registered User
              • Jan 2003
              • 1434

              #126
              Thought NATO decided to take action.
              "What we have to accomplish at this time is all the more clear: relentless criticism of all existing conditions, relentless in the sense that the criticism is not afraid of its findings and just as little afraid of the conflict with the powers that be."
              - Karl Marx

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              • 1stdeadeye
                Still around????
                • Jun 2002
                • 8501

                #127
                Originally posted by -Carnifex-
                Thought NATO decided to take action.
                In the Pacific???

                Get it now?

                NATO=European Theater
                UN=World Stage

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                • -Carnifex-
                  Registered User
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 1434

                  #128
                  I know that 1DE.

                  I was thinking that the countries that were part of NATO decided to take action, thus a NATO action.
                  "What we have to accomplish at this time is all the more clear: relentless criticism of all existing conditions, relentless in the sense that the criticism is not afraid of its findings and just as little afraid of the conflict with the powers that be."
                  - Karl Marx

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                  • SpecialBlend2786
                    Registered User
                    • Jun 2003
                    • 4023

                    #129
                    We watched it in english class for the sole purpous of examining effective persuasion tecniques. We then wrote a 6-8 page paper on the honesty of "Bowling for Columbine".

                    Facts are not always mean the truth, I agree with you there!

                    I only read up to the 2nd page, so sorry for interupting anyone's train of thought lol.

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                    • SlartyBartFast
                      The Flying Scotsman
                      • Jun 2002
                      • 2940

                      #130
                      Originally posted by 1stdeadeye
                      NATO=NORTH ATLANTIC Treaty Organization



                      Why would NATO be in the Pacific?
                      So why was NATO in the Balkans? NATO is named after the location of the (original) member states. Not on where they expected to be active.

                      If they were to only operate in the atlantic, how on Earth would NATO defend North America from the Soviets over the Arctic and Pacific (really just the bearing straight I suppose) Oceans?

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                      • spantol
                        Turgid Member
                        • Sep 2002
                        • 1024

                        #131
                        NATO was originally created to provide for the mutual defense of its member states against an attack in North America or Europe. The Balkans, being in southeastern Europe, would seem well within NATO's sphere of influence.

                        SEATO, the Southeast Asia Treaty Organization, was created to parallel NATO in that part of the world, but ultimately failed for reasons detailed in the Wikipedia entry.




                        Originally posted by SlartyBartFast
                        So why was NATO in the Balkans? NATO is named after the location of the (original) member states. Not on where they expected to be active.

                        If they were to only operate in the atlantic, how on Earth would NATO defend North America from the Soviets over the Arctic and Pacific (really just the bearing straight I suppose) Oceans?

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                        • SlartyBartFast
                          The Flying Scotsman
                          • Jun 2002
                          • 2940

                          #132
                          Originally posted by spantol
                          NATO was originally created to provide for the mutual defense of its member states against an attack in North America or Europe. The Balkans, being in southeastern Europe, would seem well within NATO's sphere of influence.
                          True and undisputed. But my point was that the name wasn't connected to where they operate.

                          More strange, is the fact that many many ex-soviet republics are now members of NATO. Could become sticky if the article for mutual defense is invoked by some stupid little skirmish in the "Nastystans".

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                          • spantol
                            Turgid Member
                            • Sep 2002
                            • 1024

                            #133
                            There has been exactly one time that a NATO operation has strayed from the North Atlantic area--when NATO took control of the International Security Assistance Force in Afghanistan, last August. In that one instance, it was simply because there wasn't any other body equipped to take on that role.

                            Originally posted by SlartyBartFast
                            True and undisputed. But my point was that the name wasn't connected to where they operate.
                            Last edited by spantol; 06-01-2004, 10:58 AM.

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