Fahrenheit 9/11 and why every America loving person should see it!

[spantol]

Cphilip, it was deleted two seconds after I saw a word was filtered. I didn't know that particular word was prohibited, and when I found out I promptly corrected it. No need for drama.

Good thing you deleted your previous post... do it again and your getting a temp ban. I can see deleted posts and they will be considered. As well as the fact that you deleted them after some thought will be considered in your favor. I suggest you just edit them though. Simpler and easier and leaves no trace of your indiscretions.

[Konigballer]

was i the only one who liked the movie? Not as a documentary, but just as an entertaining movie. The thing was edited and shot slick as hell, you have to give the chubby ewok that at least...

I dislike both sides of the political spectrum, I really just dont like politicians when it comes down to it, so I liked seeing an incendiery film about some of the people I dislike. It was like a movie version of the National Enquirer, but with politicians. I came into the theater knowing this was a MOVIE with a definate agenda to promote, and didnt intend for the dumb thing to cement my poltical views on issues or shift my beliefs to either the left or the right.

If people are that easily manipulated by simple entertainment, and I know they are because most people are morons, then thats their perogative, my dogs not in that hunt. It was just a movie, I love seeing people get so pissed of about it :rofl:

[spantol]

was i the only one who liked the movie? Not as a documentary, but just as an entertaining movie. The thing was edited and shot slick as hell, you have to give the chubby ewok that at least...

That's about how I took it, too. My first thought after seeing the screener was "Man, that guy's good at what he does." I saw the theatrical version yesterday, and he had at least 90% of the crowd eating right out of the palm of his hand.

[cphilip]

Cphilip, it was deleted two seconds after I saw a word was filtered. I didn't know that particular word was prohibited, and when I found out I promptly corrected it. No need for drama.

fair enough. I realized that.

Then don't turn it into a drama. I doing my job. What are you doing?

And I gave you a helpfull tip for next . You might want to review it.

[cphilip]

was i the only one who liked the movie? Not as a documentary, but just as an entertaining movie. The thing was edited and shot slick as hell, you have to give the chubby ewok that at least...

I dislike both sides of the political spectrum, I really just dont like politicians when it comes down to it, so I liked seeing an incendiery film about some of the people I dislike. It was like a movie version of the National Enquirer, but with politicians. I came into the theater knowing this was a MOVIE with a definate agenda to promote, and didnt intend for the dumb thing to cement my poltical views on issues or shift my beliefs to either the left or the right.

If people are that easily manipulated by simple entertainment, and I know they are because most people are morons, then thats their perogative, my dogs not in that hunt. It was just a movie, I love seeing people get so pissed of about it :rofl:

the problem was it was sold and promoted as a Documentary.... Not a movie.... Thats the issue.

[RoadDawg]

Michel more is truly full of crap. He makes up information and shows it as the truth and claims he can do it casue he says his documentries are satire. Now here is a link to a movie i cant wait to see. http://www.michaelmoorehatesamerica.com/index.html

There is a problem there. Micheal Moore obviously does not hate America. It's people trying to discredit his image by saying he doesn't. When in truth he doesn't like the current President. He has said so himself. He's an independent and doesn't affiliate himself with Rep or Dem's. I have yet to see this flick but I personally people should view it with an open mind. After seeing the flick, due some research (both spectrums) and come to your own conclusion. Best way to find the truth is read both sides and go down the middle. BOTH sides have agenda's and if you don't know this by now, you should. This film probably shouldn't be a "documentary" but since I haven't seen it, I won't jump to conclusions like most absent minded people do. My personal belief is people should see it before saying anything about it. Also in BFC some of his information is NOT made up. The truth is the U.S does have a high casualty rate by firearms. It is way too easy to get a gun in some area's of the country. Those kids had access to guns they shouldn't have and used them in a very dangerous manner. Plain and simple STUPID people should NOT own guns. If you don't have a locked safe so your kids can't access that stuff, NO GUN FOR YOU! Anyhow. I'm intrigued to see the flick and plan to go in with an open mind.

[-Carnifex-]

You know whats funny. Michael Moore is actually republican..

I love those Registered Democrat, Republicans!

[vee]

I think he's an idiot, I havn't seen the movie, nor will I spend a cent that could ultimatley end up in his pocket to see it! I read way to many things about his documentaries in my NTA mag about a year ago, and how he makes things up, messes with timelines of events, etc. Only the article I'm refering to was about his "Bowling for Columbine" movie (mockumentary).

[RoadDawg]

I love those Registered Democrat, Republicans!

He's actually an independent which he openly admits. He hates Bush and HAS NOT given Kerry his seal of approval. Learn more about the guy before ya judge. Oh wait... hardly anyone does that here so it's ok.

[Smoke]

Regardless if the movie is factual or not, at least it has people thinking.

[shartley]

He's actually an independent which he openly admits. He hates Bush and HAS NOT given Kerry his seal of approval. Learn more about the guy before ya judge. Oh wait... hardly anyone does that here so it's ok.

[SlartyBartFast]

Regardless if the movie is factual or not, at least it has people thinking.

If the usual discourse on AO is anything to go by, no it doesn't. You have rabid idiots who beleive everything as presented and you have rabid idiots who refuse to see it and won't accept anything presented.

Not a lot of thinking going on...

A real and very good documentary on the Bush/Saudi/Iraq/9-11 connections/theories can be found at: http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/conspiracytheories/index.html

[RoadDawg]

But how do you know this? Have you met the guy? How can you form a basis about him or even tell others anything about him if you have never met him (if that is the case)? I have seen several interviews with the guy where he has openly admited that Kerry isn't his favorite choice. He did admit he was anti Bush and felt that we need a change in the white house. He also said I'm not a democrat nor Republican. I'm a independant. Most of the people saying it's untrue etc are from the party that the movie is talking about. Whether or not it's true, I personally don't know til I see what he says in the movie. Hense I won't go judging it nor take anyone elses word on it. I realize the guy stretches the truth or has been accused of making stuff up but I also see hear that from the extreme opposite of what he's talking about. Which lets me know they both have their different points of view and some of it is true and some is not. That's what happens when you can allow yourself to see another's point of view without forming a opinion before hand. I say "see the movie before you judge it", because your taking someone elses word on it. To go along with your previous analogy it would be like taking someone's word that the Holocaust wasn't as bad as we made it out to be (even though it was). Go to the free site so that way Moore see's none of the money. There can be misrepresentations shown in just about everything. Look at paintball for example. It's been misrepresented as a "G.I Joe" type of game. It's more then that but that's the image it aquired many many years ago. Also you do need to see the film to know what is being said and in the context it's being said. If you take other people's word you have a greater chance of getting a distorted version then the actual thing. That is why I say see it (I plan on going soon) then form your opinion on it. Cause if even 15% fo what he says is true we can be in some scary times.

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[-Carnifex-]

He's actually an independent which he openly admits. He hates Bush and HAS NOT given Kerry his seal of approval. Learn more about the guy before ya judge. Oh wait... hardly anyone does that here so it's ok.

He's actually registered as a Democrat AND an independent (in Michigan, where you cannot designate your party.). So yes, YOU should learn more about the guy before you defend him.

Also, he has essentially given Kerry his seal of approval.

[RoadDawg]

Ok. SO I guess I was mistaken when I heard HIMSELF say on a interview(last week) the following. "I'm a independent, and I don't support Kerry. I believe we need a change in the White House because Bush is taking us down a very bad path. Kerry has some bad things about him but not as bad as Bush." I take it you missed that part. Show me where he has supported Kerry. He could be registered anything he wants to be. Hell I could be a Republican if I wanted. I vote for who I think is right. So does he. It's the power of voting. A right given to the American people. By the way showing this film doesn't necessarily support Kerry. Also I'll point out that there was some truth in BFC. The gun deaths in the US is definatly higher then that in other parts of the world. So once again if even 15% of what he says has truth behind it, we could be in a messed up situation.