Arafat is toast, get the butter.

[NJPaint]

You think that Isreal (Sharon) wants peace? Any of these meaningless political tokens? And you dare to call Arafat a terrorist, and prop up a man who was found by his own country to be personally responsible for the massacre and wonton killing of at least 700 (ISREALI ARMY FIGURES) to 3500 (Palestinian numbers). Not to mention the violence in the West Bank. You are trying to blame a man who plaes in comparison to the current leader of Isreal.

[NJPaint]

I can't stand here and tell you that Arafat did everything he could for the Palestinian people. I have too many Palestinian friends who hate his guts for his lack of structure in his government. However, I have equally as many Jewish friends who think that Sharon is guilty of war crimes an is far worse than anything Arafat could possibly be. But stop labling a man as a "terrorist" and celebrate his death until you actually know what his life was about and what he actually turned down.

Whose bullet killed Prime Minister Rabin? Was it an Islamic fundamentalist? Hamas? Or was it an Isreali Jew? It was the latter's finger who pulled the trigger. You can allege all you want about Arafat's terrorist ties, I want to see some proof, not saying you are wrong, I am talking about cold documention, like I can provide about the Sabra and Shatila massacres, or the Rabin assasination, or the peace accords.

You can write me off as "anti-semitic", "terrorist lover", whatever you want. 90% of my friends are Jewish, I agree with many and disagree with far more. But they all repsect what I have to say because they know that I hold no internal bias against Jews or Arabs. This is not about hating Jews or destroying Isreal. This is about some how taking a historical mess and turning it into a lasting peace. But before that can be done people need to graple the true nature of the situations and limitations placed on all of the characters in this conflict. Until that happens there will never be peace.

I respect my friend's religious views and have on more than one ocasion gone to Temple and spent hours talking with Jews of all levels of faith as well as rabbis. Howver, This respect does not mean that I am willing to say that "because your religion says that you are right, I am going to support you". Because you know what? As a Christian, Jerusalem is particularly holy to me as well. I dream of the day where I, a Christian can safetly travel from my home in Missouri to the Church of the Holy Sepulcher and the Temple Mound. Jerusalem is not a Jewish city. It is not an Arab city. It is not a Christian city. Nor is it a Muslim city. If anything, it is a samitic city, ironically samites include both Jews AND Palestinians. Until the United States can take an even view of the situation, we will never have peace.

It was John McCain (R-Arizona) who wanted to cut aid to Isreal because he saw it as unjustifed foreign aid given that they give us nothing and we put Isreal on a 3 billion a year welfare. I don't agree. We shouldn't be turning our back on Isreal or Jews. The have had arguably the hardest history to bear and have yet perceviered. However, I like the idea of an accountability act, similar to: Syria Accountability Act calling on Isreal to suspend its ethnic clensing of Palestine and account for what exactly US Tax dollars are doing in Isreal.

[SpecialBlend2786]

i think NJPaint should be president.

[PyRo]

Go NJ paint.

Sharon is guilty of war crimes, the world knows it and does nothing. They are establishing settlements in land they have taken over.
Isreal is guilty of war crimes, it cannot be denied. The most obvious is establishing settlements in occupied land. That would be like the U.S. deciding that since we took over Iraq and Afghanistan we are going to annex half the country. No once the conflict is over we leave, not Isreal.

[logamus]

so should we give the land won from mexico back because thats a war crime? the longer arabs support terrorism, the closer we become to not having any arabs.

[Hasty8]

Go NJ paint.

Sharon is guilty of war crimes, the world knows it and does nothing. They are establishing settlements in land they have taken over.
Isreal is guilty of war crimes, it cannot be denied. The most obvious is establishing settlements in occupied land. That would be like the U.S. deciding that since we took over Iraq and Afghanistan we are going to annex half the country. No once the conflict is over we leave, not Isreal.

Dude, you are now living on "occupied" land and John Kerry, by his own words, is guilty of war crimes.

So what's your point?

We murdered the Indians by the ton and our diseases killed them off by the thousands.

You are living on "occupied territory" right now.

And in regards to Israel, there has never been, and hopefully never will be, a Palestine. How can you illegally occupy land that no one ever owned?

Besides, if the rest of the Arab world gave a rats patootie about the Pslestinians, they would have done something about it along time ago.

[NJPaint]

so should we give the land won from mexico back because thats a war crime? the longer arabs support terrorism, the closer we become to not having any arabs.

And the longer the US supports ethnic clensing and hypocracy in its treatment of Isreal/Palestine the longer there will never be peace in the Middle East. I don't think Isreal should just evaporate and disapear. I have never said it and you will never hear me say it, not because it is politically incorrect, but rather because it is simply wrong. If individual Isreali's commit war crimes or crimes against humanity, they should be treated in the same fashion as the arab terrorists. And just because there never was an official Palestinian state does not illegitimize those people's right to live in peace and not be kicked out based only on their religion.

Don't give me the cock and bull story about how Isreal is a democracy and has equal citizen arabs. Isreal is an apartheid. Arab children go to different schools, The can't buy new property, they can't be court lawyers, the list is extremely long and there are movements in Isreal where they proudly wave signs saying "Boycott arab stores and run them out of our country" remind anyone of what the Nazi's did before WWII? Remember, who was the first large US entity to call for the boycott of South African Appartheid? The Prespyterian church. Guess who two months ago called for a boycott of Isreal calling it an Appartheid state? That same church. A safe haven for the Jewish people is long since over due. However, an appartheid state, with a superior race (Jews) and an inferior second class based on religion should have no support from a country which prides itself on equality and understanding. I am damn proud to be an American because when I read our history and I read the constitution and the Bill of Rights, I admire our commitment to freedom, liberty and equality. And I find it wholy un-American, in the spirit of the constitution to support a state that so flagrantly goes against those principles.

[NJPaint]

Dude, you are now living on "occupied" land and John Kerry, by his own words, is guilty of war crimes.

So what's your point?

We murdered the Indians by the ton and our diseases killed them off by the thousands.

You are living on "occupied territory" right now.

And in regards to Israel, there has never been, and hopefully never will be, a Palestine. How can you illegally occupy land that no one ever owned?

Besides, if the rest of the Arab world gave a rats patootie about the Pslestinians, they would have done something about it along time ago.

"has never been a Palestine", even the most naive politicians don't say this. Palestine has been around since the birth of Judaism, Christianity and Islam. Look at any map pre-dating 1948 and you will see it there (look for a world war II map). There was no state if THAT is what you mean. They are illegally occupying land that was not rationed to them when they were founded by the United Nations. Just because there was no country there, doesn't mean that there weren't people living there. And just because they didn't have a state, doesn't mean that Isreal has the right to bulldoze their homes, kick them off of the land that they were living on and build their own new houses there.

Why should the "arabs" fight for the Palestinians? They aren't one big homogenous group of people. That is like saying, if we attacked Columbia that the rest of south America should attack or fight us because they are all hispanic or that since Japan and the US were fighting that china should fight us because they are all asian.

[Repoman-gene]

NJPaint,

I have all but given up on trying to get my friends to understand that complex situation,they only know what they hear in "Sound Bites"...

thanks for a little more ammo to use on them.

[PyRo]

Dude, you are now living on "occupied" land and John Kerry, by his own words, is guilty of war crimes.

So what's your point?

We murdered the Indians by the ton and our diseases killed them off by the thousands.

You are living on "occupied territory" right now.

No, the territory i'm on was purchased from the Indians. That was hundres of years ago this is now. I could have sworn Cuba was ours and we didn't perminanlty take over?
What would you say if tommorrow Bush announce he is going to claim Iraq as a U.S. teritory, and put all the Iraqui's into camps in order to lower gas prices. I bet you wouldn't be to thrilled about it.

[PissedGodzilla]

NJPAINT just Pwnoed you all!!!!!!!

[Phobos]

You know If you can't celebrate the most Evil and deadly man of the last 40 years who death can you celebrate.

You know If the U.N. had a 1 U.N. buck note his face would be on it and Chirac would be on the 5.

[logamus]

NJPAINT just Pwnoed you all!!!!!!!

he sure did, boy do i feel served.

[SpecialBlend2786]

NJPAINT just Pwnoed you all!!!!!!!

he really did

[taylor492]

he really did

no, no he didnt