Arafat is toast, get the butter.

[MaChu]

"has never been a Palestine", even the most naive politicians don't say this. Palestine has been around since the birth of Judaism, Christianity and Islam. Look at any map pre-dating 1948 and you will see it there (look for a world war II map). There was no state if THAT is what you mean. They are illegally occupying land that was not rationed to them when they were founded by the United Nations. Just because there was no country there, doesn't mean that there weren't people living there. And just because they didn't have a state, doesn't mean that Isreal has the right to bulldoze their homes, kick them off of the land that they were living on and build their own new houses there.

Ok, lets take your point and turn that back home. You live in NJ, former home of Native Americans. You are living in once was there land, which wasn't actually a state either, but there were people living there. So should we give all the Native Americans in this country all their land back, trace our lineage back to our ancestors and go back to our native countries?

[MaChu]

Don't give me the cock and bull story about how Isreal is a democracy and has equal citizen arabs. Isreal is an apartheid. Arab children go to different schools, The can't buy new property, they can't be court lawyers, the list is extremely long and there are movements in Isreal where they proudly wave signs saying "Boycott arab stores and run them out of our country" remind anyone of what the Nazi's did before WWII? Remember, who was the first large US entity to call for the boycott of South African Appartheid? The Prespyterian church. Guess who two months ago called for a boycott of Isreal calling it an Appartheid state? That same church. A safe haven for the Jewish people is long since over due. However, an appartheid state, with a superior race (Jews) and an inferior second class based on religion should have no support from a country which prides itself on equality and understanding. I am damn proud to be an American because when I read our history and I read the constitution and the Bill of Rights, I admire our commitment to freedom, liberty and equality. And I find it wholy un-American, in the spirit of the constitution to support a state that so flagrantly goes against those principles.

I don't know where you got your facts, but here's some counter ones(might be a little bias, but are facts)

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/myths/mf18.html#a

[FactsOfLife]

Munich 1972: Arafat is personally responsible for the planning of this attack and murder of 11 Israeli athletes and the subsequent death of a german police officer.

Arafat Authorized Hamas and Islamic Jihad Attacks:

During March 9-13, 1997 (and perhaps earlier), Arafat met personally in Gaza with the leaders of Hamas and other militant groups, and gave them the "green light" to resume terrorist attacks. Following those meetings, Chief of Staff Lt.-Gen. Amnon Lipkin-Shahak told Israel Radio on March 23, 1997: "Organizations such as Hamas and Islamic Jihad have an understanding from the Palestinian Authority to carry out attacks." After the outbreak of the violence in September 2000, Hamas, Islamic Jihad, and Fatah coordinated together under the umbrella of the "Nationalist and Islamic Forces," led by Fatah.

Arafat Finances Suicide Bombings:


In a memorandum captured in Operation Defensive Shield, the Secretary-General of the Fatah office in Tulkarm requested that Arafat provide $2,000 to each of 15 specifically named "Fighting Brethren" of the Tanzim military wing of Fatah. According to Israeli military sources, each of the "fighters" was involved in the planning or execution of suicide attacks. With his own signature in Arabic, Arafat authorized the payment of $800 to each of the "fighters" on April 5, 2001.

Arafat Finances Terrorist AttacksArafat Commands the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades


While some draw a distinction between Yasser Arafat's Fatah organization and the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, Palestinians refute such assertions. The leader of the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades in Tulkarm told USA Today in March 2002: "The truth is, we are Fatah, but we didn't operate under the name of Fatah....We are the armed wing of the organization. We receive our instructions from Fatah. Our commander is Yasser Arafat himself."


In the early months of 2002, the number of attacks by the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, including suicide bombings, exceeded those of Hamas and Islamic Jihad. On September 16, 2001, the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades requested payment to cover expenses for "production of explosive charges" from Arafat's financial confidante, Fuad Shubaki, who, as the head of the Palestinian Authority's "Armed Forces Financial Directorate," was also the mastermind behind the Karine-A weapons ship delivery from Iran. That ship also carried huge amounts of C-4 explosives that could only be used for bombing attacks against Israel.



Suicide Bombings Kill 18 in Israel
Attacks on Two Buses Shatter a Five-Month Respite

By John Ward Anderson and Molly Moore
Washington Post Foreign Service
Wednesday, September 1, 2004; Page A01

BEERSHEBA, Israel, Aug. 31 -- Nearly simultaneous explosions tore through two buses in the heart of this southern Israeli city Tuesday afternoon, killing at least 16 passengers along with the two Palestinian suicide bombers and wounding dozens of people in blasts that shattered a five-month respite from major attacks inside Israel.

Israeli police said two Palestinian suicide bombers detonated their explosives within 20 seconds of each other on two buses about 100 yards apart near city hall, shredding bodies and spewing clothes, groceries and schoolbooks through the shattered windows.

Spare me your Arafat wasn't a terrorist horsecrap.

Your assertion that your friends are "90% jewish" is tantamount ot saying I got a lot of black friends so slavery is cool with me.

Arafat, his party, and I suspect a great number of Palestinians are either outright terrorists, or by their turning a blind eye to what's going on in the neighborhoods, willing accomplices to the terrorism committed by these ANIMALS.

I can only surmise by your links to highly suspect sources, that afew Jews killed is completely justifiable in your eyes, after all Isreal is the real terror nation here right?

Not only should your history teacher be slapped, the entire school system that produced you, the state of New Jersey, and most of the east coast should be slapped.

[1stdeadeye]

Not only should your history teacher be slapped, the entire school system that produced you, the state of New Jersey, and most of the east coast should be slapped.

Simmah down now!!!

Leave Jersey out of this! At least Hillary isn't our Senator!

[FactsOfLife]

Simmah down now!!!

Leave Jersey out of this! At least Hillary isn't our Senator!

At least MY gubner ain't a homo.

[NJPaint]

Ok, lets take your point and turn that back home. You live in NJ, former home of Native Americans. You are living in once was there land, which wasn't actually a state either, but there were people living there. So should we give all the Native Americans in this country all their land back, trace our lineage back to our ancestors and go back to our native countries?

Look at what I said, I absolutely do not approve of kicking the Isreali's out and making a Palestine in its place. My point is simply that there are still Palestinians living in Palestine. They should be treated with the same respect and dignity as anyone who CAN ally themselves with a country.

[1stdeadeye]

At least MY gubner ain't a homo.

Niether is mine...anymore! He is gone!!! THank God!

[taylor492]

Sorry Facts, this is all i could find:

[FactsOfLife]

Sorry Facts, this is all i could find:

ahahahah that made my day thanks!

[Target Practice]

[1stdeadeye]

So evil!!!



Yet so funny!!!!

[NJPaint]

after all Isreal is the real terror nation here right?

Baruch Goldstein is the name of an Israeli Jew. On February 25th, 1994, Goldstein, then 42 years old, killed at least 50 Palestinians who were kneeling in prayer in the Ibrahim Mosque in Hebron in the occupied West Bank.
As a result, there was a curfew for the Palestinians of Hebron, but not for Jewish settlers. The massacre was condemned by all major parites. Not only the leader of the PLO, Arafat, but also the then leader of Israel, Yitzahak Rabin (who was murdered by a Jewish settler in November 1995) Later it emerged that the Israeli soldiers, assigned to guard the mosque played a not so glorious role in the affair: they tried to prevent ambulances and doctors from reaching the wounded. It is ALSO documented that Rabin had been warned about Goldstein and his militant group by the Supreme Islamic Council in Jerusalem. There was no response from Israel to this warning. With this warning, Goldstein could have been prevented.

Others of note, since you listed:

Deir Yasin 254 civillians dead

Doueimah 350 civillians dead

Kibya 66-70 civillians dead

Kafr Kassem 49 civillians dead

^^^ In Kafr Kassem a curfew was announced 1 hour before it went into effect. A unit from the border patrol stopped some villagers on their way home. They had been working outside the village and could not have possibly known about the curfew. The situation had been predicted. But the commanding officer responded, "I do not want to see any sentimentality." There wasn't any. 49 civillians were executed on the spot.

You might also want to note how those responsible for the execusions were treated afterwards. they were initially given long prison sentenses, but were quickly reduced to only several years, the highest crime convicted was for a "technical error".


How about house demolitions? Tell me exactly it isn't terrorism to destroy 500 people's homes because one person, who no longer lived there blew themselves up in Israel? 500 people have to leave because his family lived there?


Arafat knowingly funded attacks against Israel? Well guess what? Israel knowingly performs ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians. They freely admit it. They claim that Israel is their land and they have every right to drive the Palestinians from it. Likud Manifestio, claims a "Greater Israel from Sea to Jordan river". We give 3 billion dollars a year to Israel to fund them to do this. WE pay for the settlers who perform the heinous acts against the Palestinians as well as for the IDF's weapons and training used for the expulsion of a native people from their land. Palestinians are against peace? Why is it that violence is precipitated by the actions of Israel? Rabin's assasination? Settler. Intifada, Sharon's desicration of Jerusalem. Goldstein's attack?

[Predator-KMK]

So, Arafat is a terrorist... and you vote Bush again?

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[1stdeadeye]

So, Arafat is a terrorist... and you vote Bush again?

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/yourself

[NJPaint]

So, Arafat is a terrorist... and you vote Bush again?

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I don't understand this comment. I am saying that I think that Arafat is guilty of no more terrorism than say Sharon. Btw, I voted for Bush. He is much better for the Middle East than John Kerry. Making no progress is better than going backwards.