Arafat is toast, get the butter.

[MaChu]

Arafat knowingly funded attacks against Israel? Well guess what? Israel knowingly performs ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians. They freely admit it. They claim that Israel is their land and they have every right to drive the Palestinians from it. Likud Manifestio, claims a "Greater Israel from Sea to Jordan river". We give 3 billion dollars a year to Israel to fund them to do this. WE pay for the settlers who perform the heinous acts against the Palestinians as well as for the IDF's weapons and training used for the expulsion of a native people from their land. Palestinians are against peace? Why is it that violence is precipitated by the actions of Israel? Rabin's assasination? Settler. Intifada, Sharon's desicration of Jerusalem. Goldstein's attack?

Its like your totally disregarding the terrorist attacks through out the century before Isreal started moving in to Palestine land. If anything, Isreal is just getting even for the countless bombings, assasinations, and killings that happened before they started these policies. If you kept on getting killed, you just don't say "Hey, kill me some more", you fight back. I say let them have a war and get this conflict over, its not like Palestine is this defenseless peaceful nation that has tried everything for peace. Borders between Palestine and Isreal have been planned so many times but Palestinian leaders always wanted everything, even the lands that rightfully belonged to Jewish and Christian families that date back to Malemuk empire times. Greed on both sides doomed the peace process through the 1930-1950s. But instead of working through it, Palestinians decided to doom themselves in the international community's eyes by carrying out terrorist attacks not only on Israel but in other countries like France, Japan, Germany, Switzerland, etc for the sake of freeing Palestine. Yes, free Palestine by killing innocent people in other countries who have no ties what so ever with Isreal. These rasch actions only breed more hate and retailation. After 30 years of taking it in the chin, now Isreal isn't taking anymore of it and have instituted a more active way of stopping this. Palestinians kill Jewish school children, they take more land and kill Palestinian children. Seems fair to me.

Look at this way, this is a slow war with rules that have disregard for human life like any war does, and we are just supporting Isreal like any ally should.

[FactsOfLife]

I don't understand this comment. I am saying that I think that Arafat is guilty of no more terrorism than say Sharon. Btw, I voted for Bush. He is much better for the Middle East than John Kerry. Making no progress is better than going backwards.

Please, Arafat was the INVENTOR of modern terrorism.

[NJPaint]

Look at the dates of those massacres, all most of them are well before the concept of a suicide bombing ever appeared. "Palestinian leaders have always wanted everything" Well that is refering to 2 points in history, 1948 and 2000, when offers were rejected. The initial offer was rejected, are you surprised? If Russia said they were moving all the chechnyans to rural Montana, I think the US and Montanians would probobly say no as well. 2000 the lines were rejected and not because Palestinians wanted "everything". LOOK at the maps, SEE what was actually offered. Here is a good break down of the 2000 offer: http://www.vopj.org/issues-d-generous-offer.pdf

Israel hasn't been "patiently waiting 30 years and taking the beating. They invaded and illegally occupied land, and killed thousands, that is not a peace move.

I would also like to see the terrorist attacks that occured outside of Israel. Given that all the countries you mentioned have supported the Palestinian cause since the 60s and 70s, I am highly skeptical of your claim.

[NJPaint]

Please, Arafat was the INVENTOR of modern terrorism.

And murdering thousands in cold blood makes you a saint right? how exactly is he the "inventor of modern terrorism"? stop making up terms to make yourself sound like you know anything about what you are talking about. Sharon and various other Israelis are as guilty if not more guilty of terrorism than Arafat could ever be. I am not a fan of him. I think he made key blunders in his work, but not even Shimon Peres calls Arafat a terrorist (read Peres' op-ed after arafat's death) Only those watching fox news and other US media outlets do that, along with re-name suicide bombings, homicide bombings. Get a grip, read the facts instead of what Fox tells you. This isn't partisan like politics in the US, this is all one sided. Civilian deaths because of rogue religious fundamentalists are dominated by Jewish settlers, NOT by suicide bombers. But you don't get that from the US media. You learn that by looking at the data. Read Haaretz, or the Israeli Post the ONLY people that agree with you are Jewish religious fundamentalists (primarily settlers, ie terrorists) and other uninformed Americans who think that all they get on their TV is what happens and that Barak actually offered a "generous offer".

[FactsOfLife]

And murdering thousands in cold blood makes you a saint right? how exactly is he the "inventor of modern terrorism"? stop making up terms to make yourself sound like you know anything about what you are talking about. Sharon and various other Israelis are as guilty if not more guilty of terrorism than Arafat could ever be. I am not a fan of him. I think he made key blunders in his work, but not even Shimon Peres calls Arafat a terrorist (read Peres' op-ed after arafat's death) Only those watching fox news and other US media outlets do that, along with re-name suicide bombings, homicide bombings.

Kid, wtf are you smoking?

Whether you like it or not, I DO know what I'm talking about here.

The fact that you don't like it is YOUR problem.

Your statement that it's somehow the Israelis that are WORSE terrorists than Arafats animals is unbelievably ABSURD.

You go right ahead and get your news from Al-Jazeera.

I'll say it again, ARAFAT WAS THE INVENTOR OF MODERN ISLAMO-FASCIST TERRORISM.

Your anti semitism is disgusting in the extreme.

[NJPaint]

Kid, wtf are you smoking?

Whether you like it or not, I DO know what I'm talking about here.

The fact that you don't like it is YOUR problem.

Your statement that it's somehow the Israelis that are WORSE terrorists than Arafats animals is unbelievably ABSURD.

You go right ahead and get your news from Al-Jazeera.

I'll say it again, ARAFAT WAS THE INVENTOR OF MODERN ISLAMO-FASCIST TERRORISM.

Your anti semitism is disgusting in the extreme.

news sources: CNN, Fox, Haaretz and Jerusalem Post. Two US sources and two Israeli sources, but thanks for trying to discredit me based on my sources. I tend to stick to those based in Israel because well, for exactly this reason. They are beyond this inane critisizm. I go by the Israeli figures as well as what THEIR reports say and I quote them here, for you to see.

Israelis are worse than Arafat? Look at the facts, they don't lie. You just ignore the facts that don't suit your purpose.

Fine, Arafat is "the inventor of modern terrorism". And Israel is guilty of the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinian people and Sharon is personally responsible for the massacre of thousands of civilian lives.

my anti-semitism? You are disgusting and dispicable. Because a man finds solidarity with those being oppressed and ethnically cleansed, just because those oppressing are Jewish does not make them anti-semitic. You are damn right. I am anti-Israel, I can freely say that with out any guilt. I also have dozens of Jewish friends and even RABBIS that say the same thing. ARE THEY ANTI-SEMITIC???? CAN THOSE JEWS WHO HAVE THE SAME AND EVEN MORE EXTREME OPINIONS BE CALLED ANTI-SEMITIC??????

Your arguements are unintelligent and do not have a cogent point or a solid basis in facts and are a disgrace to the Israeli cause.

[NJPaint]

I just read Shimon Peres' Op-Ed piece about Arafat. HAVE YOU? Have you looked at anything besides what has been fed to you? Have you looked at the maps with the boundary lines drawn on them and the absurdity of those lines? I personally take the former prime minister of Israels take on Arafat and terrorism far more seriously than I take you. Somehow I think that most people would take his word over that of a raving lunatic like yourself.

So predictable that you would fall back on anti-semitism, didn't I predict that on what... Page 1? Its obvious that when you can't argue with reason, you have to fall back on 50 year old rhetoric in order to garner support. NEWS FLASH Palestinians are Samites as well!!! Oh wait, you wouldn't know that would you...

[ShooterJM]

hmmm.

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/editorial/outlook/2896856

[1stdeadeye]

Great article!!!

By the way, how many retarded boys did the Israelis send to blow themselves up and kill Palestinians? None? Can the Palestinians say the same?

[tropical_fishy]

Pre-WWII, Palestine was its own nation. It was created around 1947 by the United Nations, fullfilling the idea of "Zionism," or the creation of a Jewish homeland in Palestine. Yes. Palestine. NOT ISRAEL. [http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=Zionism]

Now that I've stated that, I have to say that I find this debate ridiculous. I fail to understand why two different cultures that are fundamentally similar (Judaism, Christianity and Islam come from the same roots) can't just put aside bad feelings and share the freaking land.

By the way, if you want to see who's "invented" modern terrorism, look around. Timothy McVeigh did pretty well on his own, I think, without Mr. Arafat's help. Americans have funded terrorism in the past; I'm sure we'll look back on this in 20, 30 years and see that the Clinton and Bush I administrations exclusively funded Israel. Israelis are not blameless in this by any stretch of the imagination. If you push someone hard enough, they push back. Terrorism is inexcusible, but so is bigotry. Accusing Arafat for hundreds, thousands of murders is like accusing Bush of heading the Christian Coalition and facilitating hate crimes that fundamentalist Christians perpetrate. It's pure idiocy.

So, where do you suggest that they go? Shall we just kill all Arabs? Pfffft.

[NJPaint]

Great article!!!

By the way, how many retarded boys did the Israelis send to blow themselves up and kill Palestinians? None? Can the Palestinians say the same?

And how many times have the Israelis commited atrociticies hundreds of times worse?

[-Carnifex-]

The death of a terrorist is always a good thing!

The story!

Get ready for the civil war to begin!

ex-terrorist*

[MaChu]

I would also like to see the terrorist attacks that occured outside of Israel. Given that all the countries you mentioned have supported the Palestinian cause since the 60s and 70s, I am highly skeptical of your claim.

[NJPaint]

Like I noted before as well, you are taking radicals and punishing an entire ethnic group for what those radicals did. I listed radicals, but also official Israeli policy that has been systematically attempting to wipe out the Palestinians.

[MaChu]

All Palestinians in general have no sympathy towards other countries, they only care about themselves and hating Isreal IMO and probably rejoiced when all those incidents happened. All of them, every man, women and child worship these radicals. Women cry for them, kids idolize them and men become them.

And it is government policy to systematically wipe out the Palestinians? WTH? Ok systematically wiping out Palestinians would be going to kill every Palestinian at check points, going door to door in Palestine and shooting women man and child, and there wouldn't be a Palestine now. It would be mass genocide. But hey! Palestine is still there. You went from apartheid to genocide in 2 pages, blowing it up way out of proportion.

Like I said before, just have a damn war, send all the Palestinian refugees into neighboring countries and get all this crap over with.