IAMS food company

[frop]

I smell a flame war

[Destructo6]

And no, pigs arent for eating... they are animals, like humans are. They arent "made" for humans to kill and eat; get over yourself, nothing is made soley to support your existance.

I'll eat anything available and palatable, thank you very much. Natural rights, you see.

[personman]

Do you believe everything you read on the internet?

[slade]

Do you believe everything you read on the internet?

no... i dont beleive a lot of the stuff that Rooster posts.

Destructo6 - to clarify, I am not against eating meat. I am against rasing animals to be killed, and especially against the treatment of animals.

[OysterBoy]

How do you think we've gotten to where we are, slade? The food chain does exist; be thankful we're at the top (With the possible exception of laser weilding, bipedal sharks..). While the current state of things may suck, we're still better off now then we were 100 years ago.. we got there by being the best damn devourers we could be. Vegetarians die, just as the rest of us do, except that most veg-heads rarely affect anything for the better.

If the production of human-sustinance results in an unhappy piglet, so be it. Really, if we can squeeze 5 meals out of a pig instead of 2.. who really suffers? Noone.

[Destructo6]

I am against rasing animals to be killed, and especially against the treatment of animals.

As Oysterboy said, it is how humans became what they are today. Civilization is often defined by permenant settlements, agriculture, domestication of animals (some for work, others as food), smelting of metals, and a written language. Nature, or God (take your pick), has selected humans as omnivores and the best way to ensure the quality of the food we eat is to control its production, both for plant and animal food items.

That said, I'd also like point out that, along with the right to harvest animals, humans have a responsibility to be as humane as reasonably possible.

[OysterBoy]

humans have a responsibility to be as humane as reasonably possible.

Agreed. Not for any logical reason, but without some moral limits, things will go to pieces. First the slaughter of pigs is ruled just, then the slaughter of human is ruled just (which, in many cases, it should be..).

[Glickman]

lets take a peta trip up someones ***, im sure theyll find horses being beaten to death by club-bearing midgets...


you get the point

[personman]

First the slaughter of pigs is ruled just, then the slaughter of human is ruled just (which, in many cases, it should be..).

Now wait a minute.
Why would the slaughter of humans be just?
First of all, we have some sort of justification for slaughtering pigs. They taste good. They fill our bellies. They give us something to put with the lettuce and tomato on a hamburger.
I dont see how you can use that logic. The slaugter of mankind wouldn't benefit mankind.. if there was some kind of benefit, I'm sure we would. There isn't much of a market for human meat though
There does need to be moral limits, but I think you picked a bad example, or atleast one I didn't understand
I agree with Destructo6's post.

[OysterBoy]

You confuse slaughter with processing. Slaughter, as in, inhumane killing. What I meant was, if we lower our standards of morality in one field, human nature will tend to lower standards in morality in other areas; namely, execution.

[personman]

Ah. I see what you mean now.
I don't nessicarily agree with that though.

[billybob_81067]

If we can squeeze 5 meals out of a pig instead of 2.. who really suffers? Noone.

Exactly... if you can get 5 meals out of a pig instead of 2 then that means that less than half the amount of pigs have to be processed to feed us. Would PITA.... oops I mean PETA rather we kill more than twice as many??? What a bunch of

First of all, we have some sort of justification for slaughtering pigs. They taste good. They fill our bellies. They give us something to put with the lettuce and tomato on a hamburger.

Hamburger = beef = cows... not pigs

[personman]

Hamburger = beef = cows... not pigs

I said something to go with the lettuce, tomato, and burger..
Bacon + lettuce + tomato + burger = BLT

[billybob_81067]

I said something to go with the lettuce, tomato, and burger..
Bacon + lettuce + tomato + burger = BLT

Ahhhh... now you're talkin!

[Army]

To get back to the original reason for this thread...

The Humane Society of the USA (HSUSA) did a one year assessment and oversight of IAMS's laboratories. They concluded that IAMS is NOT being cruel or inhumane against any of their test animals in any of their many labs. In fact, they gave IAMS a 95-100% rating in cleanliness and healthful conditions in all their animal testing facilities....

....much to PETA's lament.

HSUSA is no friend of hunters, ranchers, or farmers (or BLT eaters!), so for them to agree with IAMS that they are being completely compliant towards animal welfare, simply shuts down ANY propaganda that the freaks from PETA can think of.

Me? A strange dog poops on my lawn, I'll kick it in the *** all the way to the street. Nature does the same thing.......just not in combat boots.