Revocation of US Independence (FUNNY)

[Will Wood]

I know, that's why I said nevermind.
My brains are fried from studying. Give me a break

[MarkM]

What do you care? You don't live in America.

- Goro

Caring doesn't come into it...understanding does. Thordic's explaination about the electoral system is understandable if for only it doesn't appear fair, but if that's what you have to deal with then ok. The american twin house system of control is based upon the British model so the parallels with my poltical system and yours are linked so it would seem sensible that they applied the same rules...which assuming Thordic is correct (and I see no reason to say he isn't) so it shows something got lost in the translation of how things were decided.

If you were to explain that your school system is different to mine then that would be fine also...since I know it is different (in some ways better in some not) there isn't a need for you to explain.

[HoppysMag]

but we were electing our president, when you still had a king and queen. so the rest of our gov, maybe similar, our electoral system out dates yours so thier for cant be based on yours. i believe.

[MarkM]

but we were electing our president, when you still had a king and queen. so the rest of our gov, maybe similar, our electoral system out dates yours so thier for cant be based on yours. i believe.

The monarch is a figurehead with extremely limited powers and our twin house system has been in force since after our second civil war 1642-46 which was well before 1776 when your present govermental system was setup.

[HoppysMag]

The monarch is a figurehead with extremely limited powers and our twin house system has been in force since after our second civil war 1642-46 which was well before 1776 when your present govermental system was setup.

see learn something knew everyday. i was under the impresion the king had power till after george I around the early 1800s

[lather]

Seriously though, if it hadnt been for Great Britain, America would not be the world power it is today. If you dont believe me, take some history electives next time.

There used to be a saying "The sun never sets on the British empire." It was true at one time but not anymore.

You can say we are the "center of the universe", that may be true for now, but we wont be a world power forever.

[HoppysMag]

Seriously though, if it hadnt been for Great Britain, America would not be the world power it is today. If you dont believe me, take some history electives next time.

There used to be a saying "The sun never sets on the British empire." It was true at one time but not anymore.

You can say we are the "center of the universe", that may be true for now, but we wont be a world power forever.

we payed that debt back. twice ( though everyone will arguee about it)

[lather]

we payed that debt back. twice ( though everyone will arguee about it)

Yes we did, but actually we payed that debt because our interests tend to parellel those of England's.

[MarkM]

see learn something knew everyday. i was under the impresion the king had power till after george I around the early 1800s

The Monarch's powers have decreased over the years following the civil wars...it is 2 although it is often lumped together as one...George I had powers in some cases more than the present monarch but still limited and it is these limitations that tie the Monarch to the twin house system...House of Commons and House of Lords...in recent years the House of Lords has been drastically reduced in numbers though it's power remains. Our present Queen can still get some one locked up etc and in some cases executed but in this day and age this would be very unlikely to be used...if it was it would probably be the final act of the monarchy and the result would be a republic which in fairness is what we currently have...the Queen now pays taxes...which she doesn't have to do but she decided that she would do this and many minor royals have been removed from the civil list (this is what the money pot the royals get paid from is called) so now they actually have to work to get money...what that work really is rarely would be classed as work by many people but that's the way it is. Incidently the heir to the throne the Prince of Wales doesn't get a penny from the civil list as he supports himself totally from the Duchy of Cornwall and this has been the same for many many years and this will pass to William when his father ascends to the throne...unless he decides to step aside in favour of William...doubtful though but time will tell.

[HoppysMag]

Yes we did, but actually we payed that debt because our interests tend to parellel those of England's.

si, and i was hoping for an arguement.

MarkM
good info man

[Southpaw]

Interesting article about the violent crime rate in your wonderful GB.

http://www.haciendapub.com/humeven1.html

[MarkM]

Interesting article about the violent crime rate in your wonderful GB.
http://www.haciendapub.com/humeven1.html

Yet another person who doesn't read my posts I am not flag waving!
We just had a report on the TV this very week were a petition was delivered to the Prime Minister about the sale of knifes since the death rate from stabbings is higher than that of gun related deaths...

Your link is 5 years old btw and spin can be applied to any figures and since percentages are of the entire population and there are how many people in the US compared the UK...see where I am going?


"Since 1996 when a madman went on a rampage killing 16 children and their teacher in Dunblane, Scotland, Great Britian has tightened to strangulation her already draconian gun control laws so that only certified members of approved target shooting clubs are allowed to own guns, (which must be .22 caliber or smaller and which must be kept locked up at the club at all times). Guns have been virtually banned and the God-given right to self-defense has been virtually abrogated in England."

Don't see the US banning guns of certain calibre do you...and how many schools etc have got shot up in recent times or public places had snipers shooting at will....we had two events like this....Hungerford and then Dunblane..result guns banned.

The very first line in the article shows what I was saying about the political systems of the US and the UK being linked...and this article is by an american.

"Great Britain, which gave birth to the great political philosophy of classic liberalism and to America, the flowering of Western civilization, is in moral decline." Now the last section is the lead in to the article but then look to the last line of the same article....
"Will the British require another American revolution to come to their moral senses? Or, instead, will we Americans reject our Second Amendment, the palladium of our liberties - and our legacy of freedom?" This article has been written by a person who is extremely in favour of the "right"?? of holding guns...I have posted previously on this and am anti guns but then so are many americans...I know this will not change and as such I will not lose any sleep knowing this. I do not wish to see this now total thread jack turn into an Ammendment arguement...you have your beliefs and I have mine they are just different that's all.

[RingOfScale]

that as a monster fail !! i didnt even bother reading it past the first few paragraphs

[HoppysMag]

Don't see the US banning guns of certain calibre do you...and how many schools etc have got shot up in recent times or public places had snipers shooting at will....we had two events like this....Hungerford and then Dunblane..result guns banned.

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trying to ban 50 cal rifles. because yet again, an uninformed few think that we are gunna have inner city 50 cal fights.

but yes i agree dont hijack this thread. theres a thread for the gun arguement. go see the thread called " Pissed off almost an entire class today"

[Southpaw]

You will no longer be allowed to own or carry guns.You will no longer be allowed to own or carry anything more dangerous in public than a vegetable peeler. Because we don't believe you are sensible enough to handle potentially dangerous items, you will require a permit if you wish to carry a vegetable peeler in public.

You will learn to resolve personal issues without using guns, lawyers or therapists. The fact that you need so many lawyers and therapists shows that you're not adult enough to be independent. Guns should only be handled by adults. If you're not adult enough to sort things out without suing someone or speaking to a therapist then you're not grown up enough to handle a gun.

It was the first article found I can find one much more recent. As to the fact that I was the one who brought up the gun issue please read above. Please also read MY post and see that I referenced violence not guns!!