Is america stingy?

[Albinonewt]

We don't want your money, we want you to stop attacking things with weapons of mass destruction.

You don't want our money?

So I suppose Europe will be cleaning up it's own mess in Bosnia now, without our help!

And what WMD exactly have we used? Since WWII it's been all conventional

When their countries get levelled, the fleeing millions come to Europe. And we, the Euro taxpayer, has to feed, dress, house, educate the poor immigrants.

Well, A) That's a lie, the vast bulk of Arab immigration into Europe is from countries other then Iraq and Afghanistan and B) happened well before the last two wars in the region not to mention C) maybe ya'll should think about closing the door

Sort your own country out before trying to sort others.

We'll remember that next time someone crosses the Rhine

[GT]

Hey and Bush kicks up our share to $350 mil, which is the largest single country pledge. As long as he follows up on it and actually gives it (which is genuinely in question with this president), this thread becomes mostly moot.

This is so stupid, inreality the president spends little money that is not appoprved by the congress first. I love how the pres is always the target.

As off today:
1. US 350 mil
2 Australia 60 mil
3 UK 45 mil (i think)

Inresting isnt it? The top three to respond the quickest are those who are also fighting in Iraq... The same nations that are constantly deamonized by the "left."

[Bolter]

First, we have not used WMD since WWII! Not many people complained about that since it ended the war.

As for the millions coming to Europe, where are they coming from? Turkey, Egypt, Syria, Lebanon,.... We did not invade any of them. They are coming because of your rediculously liberal immigration policies.

what would you call napalm then? And what about every war thats started, America comes out with a new huge massive bomb, brags about it, and then drops it anywhere, sometimes not even hitting what it should - causing MASS destruction. Quite often killing our soldiers aswell. Blue on blue. Do you ever hear about English soldiers messing up?

No-one complained about you guys using nukes? Jesus, open your eyes man, over 300,000 innocent civilians were killed and you wonder why Japans involvement ended!!!! Would you complain when a country is so willing to nuke you? If you do have an opinion, Bush claims you are a terrorist. Great. Im not saying Japan was right in involving themselves in the war, but nukes are a bit harsh. On civilian cities aswell.

Just for the record, I do not have a problem with Americans. Its your government and their foreign policies that are questionable. Your brave soldiers have one hell of a job to do, while Mr Bush sits in luxury smoking a fat one.

We have many many many Iraqi refugees in our country. Their country is in the worst state it has been since you last invaded.

[HoppysMag]

what would you call napalm then? And what about every war thats started, America comes out with a new huge massive bomb, brags about it, and then drops it anywhere, sometimes not even hitting what it should - causing MASS destruction. Quite often killing our soldiers aswell. Blue on blue. Do you ever hear about English soldiers messing up?

No-one complained about you guys using nukes? Jesus, open your eyes man, over 300,000 innocent civilians were killed and you wonder why Japans involvement ended!!!! Would you complain when a country is so willing to nuke you? If you do have an opinion, Bush claims you are a terrorist. Great. Im not saying Japan was right in involving themselves in the war, but nukes are a bit harsh. On civilian cities aswell.

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when these "300,000 innocent civilians" are willing to take any weapon ( many had nothing more than pointed sticks) and try to kill our marines on the beaches should the invasion happen. because they would rather die than admit they got thier asses kicked. the japanese were not innocent. i think its time you open your eyes to things like the rape of nanking , the japanese diseas warfare against the chinese, the human experiments performed on POW's and the horrible treatment of pow's


added. japan was months away from making a dirty bomb to use against us.

[HoppysMag]

oh ya, englands elite military never makes mistakes http://archives.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/e...itain.marines/

spain, england.... close enough

[B.A.M.]

Man this is getting ugly.

[Jonneh]

Everything Bill Bailey says is correct!

[HoppysMag]

Everything Bill Bailey says is correct!

ha ha that is good

[B.A.M.]

Nothing wrong with that. He also forgot that france is the kid with the broken glasses.

[drg]

This is so stupid, inreality the president spends little money that is not appoprved by the congress first. I love how the pres is always the target.

As 1) the source of US foreign policy and 2) the leader of the a majority party in congress that is by and large willing to rubber-stamp his decisions, there's plenty of reason this reflects directly on the Bush administration. To deny that is to, well, deny reality.

As off today:
1. US 350 mil
2 Australia 60 mil
3 UK 45 mil (i think)

Inresting isnt it? The top three to respond the quickest are those who are also fighting in Iraq... The same nations that are constantly deamonized by the "left."

Japan has taken over the top spot at $500 million, not a participant in the fighting in Iraq and with a population very much against it. UN agencies have allocated upwards of $250 million, an organization consistently demonized by the "right" for being against Iraq and not sanctioning it. I think the point is that trying to link this to Iraq somehow is quite a partisan stretch at best.

[drg]

It's a question because you don't like him? Or because of some actual event where he didn't deliver aid?

I think the former.

Please, unless you've been under a red-painted rock the past few years, you should know that Bush's failure to fully fund in a timely manner some important foreign policy pledges is well-established, most notably in Afghanistan. With all the budgetary pressures, it's not hard to see why this could happen again.

Are you denying it because you like him? Or because you truly didn't know that?

I think both.

[Albinonewt]

Please, unless you've been under a red-painted rock the past few years, you should know that Bush's failure to fully fund in a timely manner some important foreign policy pledges is well-established, most notably in Afghanistan. With all the budgetary pressures, it's not hard to see why this could happen again.

Are you denying it because you like him? Or because you truly didn't know that?

I think both.

I wasn't aware that congress has adbicated it's control over the budgetary purse strings.

At least now I know who to blame for everything....


Of course, that everything still isn't defined, just vaguely as "promises"

[slateman]

I for one am proud of the money that we've pledged. If it means my taxes gotta be raised a little I'm ok with that.

And $350 million is only the begining. Just wait till all of the charity drives start going. There will probably be some big telethon and such. And America's "evil capitalist corporations" will probably double that in funds and goods (put that in your pipe and smoke it Mr. Moore )

[GT]

I think the point is that trying to link this to Iraq somehow is quite a partisan stretch at best.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4130599.stm

I am not going to draw a road map.....

[drg]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4130599.stm


I am not going to draw a road map.....

You're going to need one if you hope to explain how Sri Lanka refusing Israeli aid is related to who is fighting in Iraq. Where in the world are you going with this?