Firearm Experts: Hollywood fact or fiction?

[Carbon]

Im pretty sure you all have seen the movie where the hitman find his sniping spot and then proceeds to assemble his rifle for that 350+ yrd shot.

This bogus correct? As the zero from that rifle would wander from attaching/re-attaching the scope and other parts. Yes?

[Army]

Well, not totally bogus.

There have been very finely built take-down rifles that will not lose their zero no matter how many pieces come apart, including the scope and mount. However, Hollywood doesn't use these!

Most firearm prop houses for movies are owned and operated by very weapon savvy people, it's the ignorant directors that want to toss in some mad wild weapon system to fool the viewers. Best example is the older James Bond flicks featuring the AR-7 take down rifle. Q himself, touts it as the finest grade sniper rifle to ever grace the halls of MI6, and the director has the gun going "BOOM" when fired....except that it is just a .22 rimfire that barely makes a decent "bang".

All this goes along with the 15 shot revolvers, and magazine fed pistols that never seem to run out of ammo.

So, how about we settle on factual fantasies?

[Will Wood]

What do you know about the AK - sniper model?
Someone from my school had one but I had never heard of it. I almost bought it .. but I didn't out of knowing nothing about it.

[50 cal]

HS Precision makes some 1st rate takedown rifles. They break down into a package that fits inside a small briefcase.
So no, it's not fiction.

Will Wood,
Those Dragunov copies are pretty hit and miss when it comes tot he accuracy dep't. Some shoot great, most don't. I have a friend that has one of the copies. It's lucky to hit 2.5" at 100 yds. My M14/21 copy will group 5 shots 1.75" at 300 yd. Semi auto's aren't very condusive to pin point accuracy. Some do. It's hit and miss and you have to factor in the knowledge of the person that built it up.

[SCpoloRicker]

not an "expert"

I am, however, familiar with some of what's being discussed.

"Take-down" rifles that can be used effectively at longer ranges (~5-700 ) do exist; but not in the exact context you are describing. I know HK makes a semi-auto rifle good out to around 750 yds that can break down into a Pelican case. There are others also.

But, they "break-down" into a two and a half foot long case. The movie example of the assasin pulling parts out of his coat, screwing them together, and firing silenced rounds 400 yds is not realistic.

Side note: Another movie shot I despise is the "zooming binoculars/scope" Every movie with a man on a rifle shows him "tracking" his mark, while the camera zooms in on his face. Scopes are static!

Double side note: I dig Michael Mann gunplay. Heat is obviously kickbutt, but I just picked up Collateral. Man, Tommy gets down in this film. Super cool, realistically styled weapon use. As in quick draw from hip holster, double tap center mass left foe; shift to Weaver, double tap center mass-single tap forehead right foe; walk over and forehead tap first foe. All in a sec and a half

[WingMan13]

What do you know about the AK - sniper model?
Someone from my school had one but I had never heard of it. I almost bought it .. but I didn't out of knowing nothing about it.

You sure it wasn't maybe a SKS rifle?

[WingMan13]

Here's a link to the HK XM8, which is supposed to replace the M-16. A qoute in their site: "The attachment points for the standard multi-function integrated red-dot sight allow multiple mounting positions and insure 100% zero retention even after
the sight is removed and remounted". NICE! http://www.hkdefense.us/pages/milita...bines/xm8.html

[CaptaiN_JacK]

At least the movie directors have some gun action realistic, like when they accurately fire a machine gun with one hand, or one in each hand, that's usually pretty easy to do

[lord1234]

i did like how in the matrix they threw guns away when the rounds were spent...thats smart.

[TheDuelist]

The "AK" sniper rifle you are asking about may be the Dragunov SVD. I'm not sure without a better description.

Check out this link

http://securityarms.com/20010315/galleryfiles/0200/223.htm

[brianlojeck]

i did like how in the matrix they threw guns away when the rounds were spent...thats smart.

man... now I've got that base line running through my head... only way to get it out is to finish the sequence in my mind...

beep
"please remove any metallic items you may be carrying. Keys, loose change.."
swish
"Holy (beep)!"
Thud
tat-tat-tat-tat-tat-tat
"Backup! send backup!"
beep
tat-tat-tat-tat-tat-tat
boot-boot-boot-boot-boot-boot-boot-boot-boot
click-chunk
"FREEZE!"
glance
base guitar

ah... much better...

[sharpshooter1286]

that whole scene was so outrageously awesome...especially the part when trinity grabs the dudes shotgun and then ends up behind him and blasts him in the back

[brianlojeck]

am I the only one who can't stop hearing that base line while playing paintball?

who watches that gunfight and feels a sudden need to play 'ball?

who play's 'ball and feels a sudden need to watch that gunfight?

I think I have a problem...

[MayAMonkeyBeYourPinata]

am I the only one who can't stop hearing that base line while playing paintball?

who watches that gunfight and feels a sudden need to play 'ball?

who play's 'ball and feels a sudden need to watch that gunfight?

I think I have a problem...

You don't play ball.

The ball plays you.

[1stdeadeye]

Best example is the older James Bond flicks featuring the AR-7 take down rifle. Q himself, touts it as the finest grade sniper rifle to ever grace the halls of MI6, and the director has the gun going "BOOM" when fired....except that it is just a .22 rimfire that barely makes a decent "bang".

Bwahahaha! That is right it blows up a helicopter with 1 shot!