Firearm Experts: Hollywood fact or fiction?

[HoppysMag]

Good snipers with a 30.06 have made kills at ranges approaching mile Granted it was not a one shot one kill but none the less amazing. With rifles like the 338 this range can reach into and past the 1 mile range. The 50 cal is not a sniper rifle it is an anti material weapon designed to take out vehicles, scud missiles, mobile radar units ect. Not to say that it will not work on a person but a bullet that will go through an engine block at over 1 mile is overkill on a human at almost any range.

a friend of mine is a 50 cal gunner in iraq, and he said the 50cal doesnt even need to make contact, the pressure wave alone can kill a man. thats sweet

[Blennidae]

The 50 cal is not a sniper rifle

As Boski51 pointed out, there is a man named Barrett that would disagree with you. It may not have been its original purpose, but they seem to be pretty popular for those really long shots.

[lew]

As Boski51 pointed out, there is a man named Barrett that would disagree with you. It may not have been its original purpose, but they seem to be pretty popular for those really long shots.

As a matter of fact, the two longest range killls were made with .50 caliber weapons: Carlos Hathcock's 2500 yard shot with an M2 machinegun in semi-automatic operation and a Canadian sniper who now holds the record for his 2500 meter shot in Afghanistan.

So, in agreement, .50 caliber rifles can definately be more than just anti-material weapons.

[rkjunior303]

Second this in a big way. Heat gets my vote for best gunfight on film in history.

you should see that scene in my surround sound...

[SCpoloRicker]

As a matter of fact, the two longest range killls were made with .50 caliber weapons: Carlos Hathcock's 2500 yard shot with an M2 machinegun in semi-automatic operation and a Canadian sniper who now holds the record for his 2500 meter shot in Afghanistan.

So, in agreement, .50 caliber rifles can definately be more than just anti-material weapons.

Wait, > 2000 yd has been seen in the real world? Also, I'm not sure what an M2 machinegun is, but that's one helluva shot...

[lew]

Wait, > 2000 yd has been seen in the real world? Also, I'm not sure what an M2 machinegun is, but that's one helluva shot...

The M2 is the .50 caliber machine gun commonly seen on U.S. and allied vehicles.

[HoppysMag]

hatchock gets bonus points cause im pretty sure he built his gun, the canadian used a issued rifle. and ya mile shots have been seen alot since nam. i was un aware if they had confirmed the cadian kill.

[HoppysMag]

thats a M2, they have differant variants but prettymuch the same
keep in mind, its not exactly a percision instriment

[drg]

you should see that scene in my surround sound...

I've seen/heard it on mine, and it is something else. The way the sounds echo off the buildings and such.

[Blennidae]

Wait, > 2000 yd has been seen in the real world?

From Wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sniper

The current record for longest range sniper kill is 2,430 metres (7,972 ft), reportedly accomplished by a Canadian sniper in 2002, during the invasion of Afghanistan, using a .50 BMG McMillan bolt-action rifle. This meant that the round had a flight time of four seconds, and a drop of 44.5m (146 ft). The previous record was held by Carlos Hathcock, achieved during the Vietnam War, at a distance of 2,250 m.

[tsc]

Why does Hathcock get the bonus points?

The Canuck used an ISSUE rifle! Bolt action! That's a freakish 6th sense for what you're doing, not good luck.

[SCpoloRicker]

keep in mind, its not exactly a percision instriment

Exactly

tsc: he gets points for using an anti-infantry weapon thats usually mounted to an armored vehicle. Twenty years ago.

[SAW]

I believe Hathcock got a regular M2, bolted a rifle scope up top, then set it up on a tripod atop a firebase. That's some real firepower.

[HoppysMag]

Why does Hathcock get the bonus points?

The Canuck used an ISSUE rifle! Bolt action! That's a freakish 6th sense for what you're doing, not good luck.

no no no you misunderstand, the candian used a sniper rifle. hathcock made his rifle. on the spot, out of the equivalant of spare parts
oh and 99% of the sniper world use bolt action rifles.

[Boski51]

Good snipers with a 30.06 have made kills at ranges approaching mile Granted it was not a one shot one kill but none the less amazing. With rifles like the 338 this range can reach into and past the 1 mile range. The 50 cal is not a sniper rifle it is an anti material weapon designed to take out vehicles, scud missiles, mobile radar units ect. Not to say that it will not work on a person but a bullet that will go through an engine block at over 1 mile is overkill on a human at almost any range.

Let me put it to you gently...your correct in the anti-material thing, but wrong in the use of the 50 cal round. Granted it is not used like that everyday. But everyother day-its your round! The 50 cal round is a perfect sniper round when you really have to reach out and touch someone. Ask any Marine Scout/Sniper and he'll tell you. Ask any of the 1000 yard shooters and they will tell you the same thing. The 50 was originally an anti-tank round....things that make you go hummmmmm.